2/4 KK 200bb deep with polling goodness

Villain is an ok reg, nothing special imo, nothing stands out in my mind about his game. We've battled a fair amount, he knows I'm aggro, not much relevant history. He's running 24/18/2.4 over a lot of hands, 3bets 8% from the button, c/r's flop 8%, turn af 2.2, river 2.6. Sort of middling stats all around. He's a loser in my database but he's been around 2/4 and 3/6 for a long time, so I think he must be a winner overall.

Timing: he thought a little before betting the turn and insta, insta, instashoved river.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

MP ($496)
CO ($851)
Hero (Button) ($884.80)
SB ($912.70)
BB ($800)
UTG ($456.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $14, 1 fold, BB calls $10

Flop: ($30) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB raises to $74, Hero calls $50

Turn: ($178) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $148, Hero calls $148

River: ($474) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $564 (All-In), Hero...

I would fold the river.

does anybody try to get this in on the flop?

What if river is the :2c: ??

im prolly folding river vs this guy but wouldnt fold vs alot of others

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Originally Posted by b-rabbit

does anybody try to get this in on the flop?

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definitly not the optimal play vs this guy 200bb deep

why do you open so big on the button?
Surely, this is not optimal
my attempt to steal is like 50-60% on the button, obviously I usually have weak hands that can't stand a 3b so I make it 2.5x

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Originally Posted by iopq

why do you open so big on the button?

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200bb deep. I open 2.5x 100bb deep with most regs in the blinds.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I hate playing deep without retards to pump up the pot.

I guess fold river, but I could call. Both the turn and river are good cards for us.

What's his re-raise range from the BB? If he's flatting QQ/JJ he could be making a funny "I missed my draw" push on the river trying to get value from worse.

This guy wont fire the third bullet with air imo. Especially like this. If he cared about balancing his set line he's have a bigger flop c/r % to start with.

Alexos, I agree against guys who are good. What if they bet $388 on the 2:c:

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Originally Posted by Alexos

What if river is the :2c: ??

im prolly folding river vs this guy but wouldnt fold vs alot of others

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i mean :2d: sorry..

takes away 222 combos and doesnt make trips to 89 so a lot closer?

Yeah I would say call on blank 2. It still begs the question if he's capable of it but I think its to good of a card for us to fold.

One interesting thing I find from experience is that with guys who are less then great, they often don't know wtf to do when they c/r this flop w 89 and then hit showdown value on the turn and they often go into c/c mode because of it.