Planned on hitting my flush and shoving river... but...

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05-25-2009, 01:11 AM

Planned on hitting my flush and shoving river... but...

Opponent is a standard tag
The reason I led the flop because I thought someone hit it and I was going to play for stacks on the flop
but the PFR called, I thought I'd bet again to set up a river shove if I hit the flush but then he shoved into me on the turn
I did some quick metal math and came up with 28% equity and 30% equity needed to call so I folded

any better way to play this?
possibly c/r on the flop or check turn after donking

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($100)
CO ($220.20)
Button ($39.95)
Hero (SB) ($244.30)
BB ($134.90)
UTG ($106.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif
UTG bets $3.50, MP calls $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($14) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero bets $9, 1 fold, UTG calls $9, 1 fold

Turn: ($32) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $30, UTG raises to $93.75 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $92 | Rake: $3
05-25-2009, 01:28 AM
mcatdog

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

this is the worst played hand ive ever seen in this forum
05-25-2009, 03:01 AM
minSim

What's wrong with c/c flop? You're basically always facing Ax at least when someone bets this flop.

I don't see why you're eager to play for stacks on the flop with like 50% equity and little to no FE.
05-25-2009, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcatdog

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

this is the worst played hand ive ever seen in this forum

I keep setting records
05-25-2009, 05:14 AM
nutsinho

well planned. You could see that after calling the turn he would have 64$ left in a 92$ pot, but you did not consider the MASSIVE likelihood of him either shoving or dumping to your pot sized lead.
05-25-2009, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

well planned. You could see that after calling the turn he would have 64$ left in a 92$ pot, but you did not consider the MASSIVE likelihood of him either shoving or dumping to your pot sized lead.

obv piss-poor hand planan'
05-25-2009, 06:44 AM
Da GOAT

Flop lead is bad. Leading to try get allin on flop is poor. c/c flop is way better. Check turn as played
05-25-2009, 07:53 AM
HiLo

Quote:

Originally Posted by minSim

I don't see why you're eager to play for stacks on the flop with like 50% equity and little to no FE.

EV on this type of play alone is fairly neutral but increases the chances of getting our sets paid off on future hands, so on balance works out more profitable????
05-25-2009, 09:08 AM
griffey24

Once he calls flop, given he's UTG, his range is likely JJ-KK type hands and strong aces.

He's not folding any aces, and he's prob checking through with the other pairs. Just check turn, c/c if he bets and take your free card the times he checks.
05-25-2009, 09:45 AM
bigspenda73

I doubt he even peels with JJ-KK on the flop
05-25-2009, 09:59 AM
mcatdog

I'd lead bigger on the flop, and overbet the turn as played, makes it easier to get all-in against a range that destroys you.
05-25-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Flop lead is bad. Leading to try get allin on flop is poor. c/c flop is way better. Check turn as played

would we like to lead a set on this board? if so, we should lead draws especially against people who can hand-read
05-26-2009, 03:28 AM
Da GOAT

I think you will find if we get allin on flop our equity really aint that great vs his flop stacking off range.

i wouldnt lead a set on this flop tho, id c/r. i wouldnt lead a draw into 4 people either.