100NL tripple barrel

limper is a fish, coldcaller has high vpip and pfr over a small sample, but he seems like a reg

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($106.45)
Button ($160.25)
SB ($100)
BB ($121.45)
UTG ($169.60)
Hero (MP) ($106.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
UTG calls $1, Hero bets $4.50, CO calls $4.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($15) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls $7, 1 fold

Turn: ($29) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $14, CO calls $14

River: ($57) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $27

I thought the majority of the villain's range was medium pps and he would raise the flush draw on the flop so when the flush draw completes I can represent that hand because I would double barrel a flush draw

How is my bet sizing? I half pot it on the flop every time on this board, but should I keep half potting it on the turn and river?

Hmmm i don't like it. I think he will be looking you up light, river is a bad card for you to barrel.

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Originally Posted by Luke999

Hmmm i don't like it. I think he will be looking you up light, river is a bad card for you to barrel.

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there's like no way he has a K or a 3, so I would be value betting a flush here

I doubt you get him to fold a 6 or a hand like 8's here.

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Originally Posted by Luke999

I doubt you get him to fold a 6 or a hand like 8's here.

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well those are exactly the hands I'm trying to fold

Well I just never expect people to fold. If the flush didn't hit i'd say a hand like 8's folds never. Even that it has it's only a small part of your range and people hate folding.

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Originally Posted by Luke999

Well I just never expect people to fold. If the flush didn't hit i'd say a hand like 8's folds never. Even that it has it's only a small part of your range and people hate folding.

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well obviously I disagree with you, or I wouldn't have bet the river so let's see what other people say

I don't know if he knows that I would play a king the same on the flop, but I might make it $22 on the turn. Which of course makes me wonder if bigger on the turn has more fold equity because it's a more credible line for trips
then I could probably still half pot it on the river given that it gives me a full house

This is spew no matter what he showed up with.

lol jyms.

I really don't like the 2nd and 3rd barrel. Also if you're half potting these turns with your made hands you're missing some value imo. That also questions your bluff sizing of course.

But bluffing as light a hand as a bare gutshot on this board can't be good.

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Originally Posted by minSim

lol jyms.

I really don't like the 2nd and 3rd barrel. Also if you're half potting these turns with your made hands you're missing some value imo. That also questions your bluff sizing of course.

But bluffing as light a hand as a bare gutshot on this board can't be good.

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no, like I said I'd bet $22 if I had the value part of my range so it's probably better to bet $22 with the bluffs too

It's absurd to think he'll fold anything to that river bet imo, he doesn't know or care that you'd bet $22 with your value range so arguing that wont help your fold equity.

If he's in anyway competent I just doubt he'll call that turn with the intention of folding to a half pot river bet unless he has diamonds which well got there, defo spew imo dude.

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Originally Posted by Carroters

It's absurd to think he'll fold anything to that river bet imo, he doesn't know or care that you'd bet $22 with your value range

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not true, if he's a reg he'd expect me to bet trips harder on the turn

I mean I feel like I'm one of those people "at my stakes all the regs know everything, you play lower so you wouldn't understand" but I think it applies here :wink:

If he is a reg it's absurd to think because he knows you'll do this for value that you won't do it with anything else.
Also you say he "seems" like a reg and your assuming he is raising a FD on a paired flop, he could easily be calling you down with a FD himself.

If I were you and got to the river the way you did, and decided to bluff, I think an overbet would be a lot better than what you bet, especially as he is a reg "He's overbet, he wants me to think he's bluffing, FOLD"

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Originally Posted by Toadstool

If I were you and got to the river the way you did, and decided to bluff, I think an overbet would be a lot better than what you bet, especially as he is a reg "He's overbet, he wants me to think he's bluffing, FOLD"

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I was going to say the same thing. IF i was going to bluff this board, I'd probably go 7, 21, over-bet shove river.

BUT I'd rather save triple barrel bluffing for spots where their calling range is weak, rather than when their calling range for getting to the river can have a lot of nuts in it. It may not be ideal to call down Kx here, but that doesn't mean people won't show up with that here, or 6's full or something.

no, because then I can't rep a lot of hands that might vbet the river small like aces or a flush

and as far as assumptjons go, it's true I can't assume anything with certainty, but I still think:
he is not likely to have the flush draw or a king
he is somewhat likely to show up with sixes full
most of his range is pps

I should be able to vbet like queens here because he'll never raise me as a bluff

why are we bluffing 3 way with no equity

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Originally Posted by mixchange

why are we bluffing 3 way with no equity

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if we had equity we'd be semi-bluffing

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Originally Posted by iopq

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Originally Posted by mixchange

why are we bluffing 3 way with no equity

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if we had equity we'd be semi-bluffing

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If he reads hands well and makes goodish folds for less than big money I like it.

Otherwise, I just don't think we've put outselves in a spot to apply enough credible pressure.

yea just bet bigger dude, how can you expect him to fold 99 here if its less than half pot