Very light squeeze + postflop (100nl)

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07-08-2009, 12:37 AM
bjsaust

Very light squeeze + postflop (100nl)

MP is 28/24 over tiny sample and folded to the only prev 3-bet. CO is 23/13 over fairly small sample also, samples too small for stats to mean much beyond general types. I havnt mixed it up with either, but if they've paid much attention I've been fairly active in general since I sat down (probably 20 hands ago).

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($109.63)
Button ($230.12)
UTG ($125.04)
SB ($100)
MP ($100)
CO ($103)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
1 fold, MP bets $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises $14, 1 fold, CO calls $11.50

Flop: ($34) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $17, CO calls $17

Turn: ($68) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $39

Squeeze is made pretty much irrelevant of cards assuming its +EV in its own right. Initial raiser seems loosish but can fold, and I cant see much in COs range that he'd call the squeeze with. Once he does I think a lot of his range is PPs. Obviously no idea if he'd fold them on this board if he missed, so probably need to dbl barrel if he calls, with this in mind is it worth firing one even? Sizing if I do? Turn I'd planned to probably barrel anyway and this is the perfect card. Again, sizing to have FE without risking more than need be?
07-08-2009, 05:10 AM

CO has either AQ or TT-JJ
I'm afraid you're getting jammed here most of the time
07-08-2009, 11:15 AM
Renton

i would bet a bit more on the flop and give up

basically all you get to fold is 99, i think a decent ten or JJ will stick around for one more bet
07-08-2009, 11:23 AM
griffey24

Sizing is pretty lame here. I would not bet this amount, since it leaves you no other options anywhere.

I'd probably check this turn, and if I felt he had a fold in him, I'd jam most rivers.

Giving up seems ok given stack sizes left.
07-08-2009, 02:11 PM
Silly String

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

i would bet a bit more on the flop and give up

This was my thought.
I don't hate a c/f here though. Given his range(JJ-66) is calling almost any flop bet, and the large squeeze creates difficulty in maneuvering postflop with 100bb eff stacks.
07-08-2009, 04:31 PM
bjsaust

I'd often just c/f in the past figuring my profit was mainly p/f anyway, but trying to be more aggressive.

More like $20 on flop?

I thought he'd also have some 77-99 type hands in his range after the flop.

Turn size was trying to play a concept from SSNLHE which is that bluffs are more effective if it looks like you're committed, so betting an amount that looks like I'm ready to play for the whole stack even though I'm obviously not.

He did fold, so maybe I just got lucky.
07-08-2009, 04:38 PM
bjsaust

Quote:

Originally Posted by griffey24

Sizing is pretty lame here. I would not bet this amount, since it leaves you no other options anywhere.

I'd probably check this turn, and if I felt he had a fold in him, I'd jam most rivers.

Giving up seems ok given stack sizes left.

Mainly because I dont have any option left on the river?
07-08-2009, 05:46 PM
mixchange

not a big fan of pre... i don't like squeezing OOP with lowish sc's... if I had J10, QJ, etc. at least we can make pairs fairly often that beat a lot of mid pairs
07-08-2009, 06:04 PM
bigspenda73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

i would bet a bit more on the flop and give up

basically all you get to fold is 99, i think a decent ten or JJ will stick around for one more bet

you think these hands call a shove?
07-08-2009, 07:43 PM
Renton

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

i would bet a bit more on the flop and give up

basically all you get to fold is 99, i think a decent ten or JJ will stick around for one more bet

you think these hands call a shove?

i don't know honestly. I think they fold sometimes, I just wouldn't really care to find out with zero outs and few reads.
07-08-2009, 09:31 PM
bspahn

i generally like c/f this is a hard flop to rep.. basically JJ-AA only right.
the way its played your range is what, AK/AQ ?
07-08-2009, 09:51 PM
bjsaust

Yeah, on the flop I'm trying to say I have QQ+ but expect to need two barrels to convince him of that (if I can). On turn I'm basically saying "Whee I cbet my AK and now it hit!!!".

Both small ranges so bleh. Trying and hopefully learning :).