fml vs loose passive

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08-06-2009, 01:03 AM

fml vs loose passive

villain is 31/2/2 over 70 hands. fold? call and call? Shove sounds awful.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($35.30)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($100.50)
BB ($100)
UTG ($151.05)
UTG+1 ($70.70)
MP1 ($87.65)
MP2 ($119.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, CO calls $1, Hero bets $5, 2 folds, MP2 calls $4, 1 fold

Flop: ($12.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $9, MP2 calls $9

Turn: ($30.50) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $22, MP2 raises $44, Hero ?
08-06-2009, 02:46 AM
BankItDrew

vs loose passive i'm calling this all day then re-evaluating on river. the problem is that we have like 1/3 PSB if we call... so borderline between calling and shoving.
08-06-2009, 03:41 AM

he thinks he has the nuts, so shove and pray he has Ax
08-06-2009, 04:05 AM
Miffed22001

call and call river shove - do you think he folds A4 here? His limp range is all about Ax and for the occasions he has AT/A( you stack him with all the rest of the Aces he has (ffs this could easily be AJ!)

Btw i prefer a bit more on every street bet size wise to let the river not quite be a pot bet shove - closer to 3/4
08-06-2009, 08:10 AM
ZwiFT

call and shove riv
08-07-2009, 07:52 AM
wakeup

why is a turn 3b so bad if he's never letting go of a Ax and never bluff raising
08-07-2009, 08:37 AM
Sir Pawnalot

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakeup

why is a turn 3b so bad if he's never letting go of a Ax and never bluff raising

My initial thought too. We get it in anyway we go, so why not now.
08-07-2009, 06:58 PM
dontezuma

Is 99/TT in his range for a sick boat? Or is JJ- more likely, and he thinks you're FOS? Or he's raising the turn to "find out where he is"?

I lean towards shipping/calling the river, since it is possible if you shove, he folds a couple of hands that you beat... there's no bonus for "getting it in ahead" and there are very few cards that hurt you if you are.