DON push spot

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09-04-2009, 04:58 AM
Nakamura

DON push spot

Is anyone pushing here? Wiz says this is a push if the sb calls 10% (generous) and if the bb calls up to 60%. In my experience, players seldom call this wide in DONs

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 10.4 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 40 Ante (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t1315)
UTG (t2545)
MP (t1655)
CO (t4720)
Hero (Button) (t2810)
SB (t1955)

Hero's M: 3.35

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
3 folds, Hero ??
09-04-2009, 05:40 AM
Luco

I would
09-05-2009, 05:36 PM
kevster

I might be losing my touch but I don't get this one either. Fold fold fold.
09-05-2009, 06:19 PM
Nakamura

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevster

I might be losing my touch but I don't get this one either. Fold fold fold.

Wiz says this is quite a large push. I tend to fold in these spots. My reasoning usually is other players are going to be under pressure to push before we do. I have a positive expectation from this since sometimes they will be called when they push. This is my reason for usually ignoring ICM here.
09-07-2009, 08:29 AM
kevster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nakamura

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevster

I might be losing my touch but I don't get this one either. Fold fold fold.

Wiz says this is quite a large push. I tend to fold in these spots. My reasoning usually is other players are going to be under pressure to push before we do. I have a positive expectation from this since sometimes they will be called when they push. This is my reason for usually ignoring ICM here.

But is Wiz properly taking into account the other stacks Vs. the flat payout structure?
09-07-2009, 08:32 AM
kevster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nakamura

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevster

I might be losing my touch but I don't get this one either. Fold fold fold.

Wiz says this is quite a large push. I tend to fold in these spots. My reasoning usually is other players are going to be under pressure to push before we do. I have a positive expectation from this since sometimes they will be called when they push. This is my reason for usually ignoring ICM here.

But is Wiz properly taking into account the other stacks Vs. the flat payout structure when calculating EV?
09-07-2009, 11:20 AM
TLR

I would fold, someone will bust themselves out before long
09-21-2009, 04:03 PM
myth2025

Marginal, but I lean towards a push.

but it would depend on the table dynamics (as in if there is a history of folding to all in bets, have you done this the last X rotations?) ...

your really only truely afraid of the SB playing back at you (as is your 10% scenario where he is holding premiums).
the BB calling you still arent doing too poorly EV wise considering the blinds/antes.

with this shove (assuming folds all around) then you would probably be secure to win it without having to sweat it out ... but if you decide to fold here, it may come back to haunt you.