1/2 - AKo deep - how much value?

Villain is a winning reg running 24/18/2.9, folds to 3bets 50%, 4bets 10%. No history I'm aware of. I have taggy stats and 3bet a lot. Any value here? Thoughts on earlier streets?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

BB ($140)
UTG ($381.15)
MP ($378.20)
CO ($898.15)
Button ($182.40)
Hero (SB) ($392.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
2 folds, CO bets $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, CO calls $16

Flop: ($47.80) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $30, CO calls $30

Turn: ($107.80) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $65, CO calls $65

River: ($237.80) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero has $275 behind...

b/f 140

you could also go 35, 75, shove

id just bet like 185. i think its too thin to shove and if he wants our last 90 dollars im not giving them to him

Just out of curiosity, when you guys are making these river b/f with little money behind, what's your timing on the fold? Are you trying to make an insta-fold so that it seems like we weren't making a big pot odds fold and were just bluffing the whole way?

Yea I generally try to snapfold

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Originally Posted by Alexos

you could also go 35, 75, shove

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I prefer this.

But as played i'm in the b/f camp as well.

i like b/folding 115, not sure we're getting called by worse if we bet bigger and smaller we can lvl ourselves into thinking we induced if he shoves.

yeah I screwed up sizing. no concerns that there aren't 3 streets of value here deep? Hoping for KQ, maybe KTs... QQ seems unlikely...

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Originally Posted by zook

yeah I screwed up sizing. no concerns that there aren't 3 streets of value here deep? Hoping for KQ, maybe KTs... QQ seems unlikely...

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I think his range is wider than that. He must assume you can double barrel this board with hearts and sometimes air, no? He might even have K8s/K9s given he doesn't fold to 3bets much.

yeah I'm sure there's turn value but was wondering if river was ambitious. I guess making him make a decision with KQ/KT/QQ/TT is much better than c/f'ing.

i feel like shove is better here... to me the stats suggest that this guy can't convince himself to fold.

i feel like he can have much worse than TT here