AQ - light value raise on flop...and gets 3bet

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03-02-2010, 07:52 PM
griffey24

3/6 - AQ - light value raise on flop...and gets 3bet

-villain is 20/15/2.8 but opens utg 26%
-villain is capable of bluffing, and has caught me bluff raising flops before, but not this session
-I feel like raising a hand like AQ on this board is good, cause its an AK2 board, and the raise here reps waay beyond nothing (maybe 222, and sometimes A2)
-should this be a spot where I'm happy about my hand if I get called, but just dump it when I'm 3bet?
-Or should I be happy that I got 3bet, since a lot of his strong hands (AAA, AK) might just flat OOP and let me burn myself

$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($699.45)
Hero (CO) ($708.10)
BTN ($621)
SB ($603)
BB ($993.65)

Pre-Flop: ($9, 5 players) Hero is CO :qh: :ac:
UTG raises to $18, Hero calls $18, 3 folds

Flop: :2c: :ah: :kd: ($45, 2 players)
UTG bets $30, Hero raises to $85, UTG raises to $168, Hero calls $83

Turn: :8d: ($381, 2 players)
UTG bets $144, Hero ?
03-02-2010, 10:01 PM
Irisheyes

Yeah I'm just gonna defer to the yeti on this one even though I have no idea wtf is going on.
03-03-2010, 04:13 AM
pocketfours

LOL, you put yourself in these spots and then you ask -US- what to do??? Doing anything but calling down would not make much sense to me.
03-03-2010, 04:26 AM
Micro2Macro

rather not mess with utg opener but ignoring that bit..cib or cib+ a few more bb's seems like the best play on flop(?)

:S

at least it looks more fos than calling (or does it?) I feel like calling almost over reps our hand a bit and gives us more credit for trapping him (assuming we flat called AA/KK/AK/22 pre..) whereas a cib can be seen as a cheap re-bluff since this is just a leveling war after all.

i'd prefer if this were co vs bu or something but I dunno, just throwing that out there. at least in later position he'd have more garbage to re-bluff you with on the flop.
03-03-2010, 02:08 PM
bikes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irisheyes

Yeah I'm just gonna defer to the yeti on this one even though I have no idea wtf is going on.

This one. I'm probably calling down this as played.
03-03-2010, 02:29 PM
griffey24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

rather not mess with utg opener but ignoring that bit..cib or cib+ a few more bb's seems like the best play on flop(?)

I don't think there's any value in cib here. The board is too dry and people are rarely crazy enough to jam over a 4bet on this board with air or something. There's not even a FD or anything.
03-03-2010, 03:58 PM
meeloche

I would never raise this flop with any hand. Vs multitabling taggs your expecting them to just monkey it in cause your not repping anything. I feel like the majority of regs at this limit just wont do that and your always gonna be in a shitty spot if they continue to your flop raise. There is no chance your doing this enough for them to adjust how you want them to.
03-03-2010, 04:42 PM
griffey24

Quote:

Originally Posted by meeloche

your expecting them to just monkey it in cause your not repping anything.

This wasn't exactly what I was expecting/hoping for. I was more expecting him to think I'm not repping anything, and then call, c/c at least one more street with a hand like AJ/AT or something.

Though I'm confused now that he 3bets.
03-03-2010, 08:08 PM
IowaSkinsFan

Flat flop obvvvvv
03-03-2010, 08:32 PM
pocketfours

lol this is the funniest hand in a while
03-04-2010, 12:35 PM
tstrout

You're on a collision course with going broke with a one-pair hand. Calling the flop to keep the pot smaller would've been more appropriate. Then you can see what he does on the turn. By raising the flop, you are showing more strength that your hand has and letting your opponent know he can bust you with large turn and river bets. He's going to get you all-in because of your raise. Best you can do with that hand is bluff-catch and raising the flop foils that plan.

BTW, notice the small turn bet and what it does? He keeps you around and makes a river shove no longer an overbet. You're getting suckered here big time.