Odd play @ 600nl

I've played less than 25 hands vs this guy when the first hand happens and he's either turning his hand into some bluff(i don't think so) or he's just some crazy thin value bettor. I post this one first because it was what was going through my head when I played the latter hand, 10 minutes later. This hand I don't care so much about, but if you want to comment, feel free


Seat 1: sEe-U-at-SD ($662.50)
Seat 2: Miech ($600)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Miech [6d 4d]
Miech raises to $18
sEe-U-at-SD calls $12
*** FLOP *** [8s 6h 6s]
sEe-U-at-SD checks
Miech bets $24
sEe-U-at-SD calls $24
*** TURN *** [8s 6h 6s] [9c]
sEe-U-at-SD checks
Miech has 15 seconds left to act
Miech bets $72
sEe-U-at-SD has 15 seconds left to act
sEe-U-at-SD raises to $186
Miech has 15 seconds left to act
Miech has requested TIME
Miech calls $114
*** RIVER *** [8s 6h 6s 9c] [Qh]
sEe-U-at-SD has 15 seconds left to act
sEe-U-at-SD bets $434.50, and is all in
Miech has 15 seconds left to act
Miech has requested TIME
Miech calls $372, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $62.50 returned to sEe-U-at-SD
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sEe-U-at-SD shows [9d 7d] two pair, Nines and Sixes
Miech shows [6d 4d] three of a kind, Sixes
Miech wins the pot ($1,199.50) with three of a kind, Sixes



Then this hand happens a little later. What I gathered from the hand above is my only real knowledge of how he plays. What's your play in this fun spot?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $6.00 BB (2 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($848.75)
Hero (SB) ($949.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
Hero bets $18, BB calls $12

Flop: ($36) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB raises to $72, Hero calls $48

Turn: ($180) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $90, Hero calls $90

River: ($360) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $78,

I call.

I wouldn't raise here due to the likelihood that he's thin value betting thinking you were playing a 9 and a raise here will likely be met with a reraise.

I'd call because it's possible he would shove over a raise with strength or air and that's a decision I'd rather avoid.

I'd raise because he has something worse a lot and he'll convince himself to call. $326

Ok, but what is he thinking? Last time he tried to get thin value, he got his stack in on gay c/r and jamming a river that hits nothing. This time he c/r a strong board (kind of a weak c/r) and gay bet a weak river.

I beat all his flopped two pairs, which he could be blocking on the river. Even though I've seen him try the thin value line, I have to take into consideration 7's and 8's (I think he 3bet T's based on 14% 3bet so far). fwiw, he didn't timebank on any street but did think a little.

Whatever doesn't matter, its an easy raise for obv reason. this happens

Miech has 15 seconds left to act
Miech has requested TIME
Miech raises to $354
sEe-U-at-SD has 15 seconds left to act
sEe-U-at-SD raises to $630 (minraise)($38 less than a shove)

absolutely fold

I think a raise i mandatory in the first part, it helps that you have JJ in your hand.

Now that he's min 3bet. Honestly if he shoved i'd agree with danny. This player is so weird and stupid however and this bet is so weird that i'd call and expect to be winning enough.

For this price I'd make a reluctant call. For all we know he thinks T8 is the nuts.