set vs fishy aggro/nit 50nl

Villain is very nitty running 13/8 but very aggro too, and 3bet once in the past 50 hands

I probably missed a lead or c/r opportunity on the turn. With the river i was planning to check call but was surprised at his overbet shove.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($59.70)
Hero (UTG) ($80.90)
MP ($61.85)
CO ($52.75)
Button ($52.95)
SB ($114.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
Hero bets $1.50, 2 folds, Button raises to $2.50, SB calls $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($8) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($18) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($28) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $40.45 (All-In), Hero pukes...

call

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Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill

call

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+1

and i'm raising the turn to either get it in there or have a 3/4 psb effective shove on the river..

raise turn?

as played i fold for sure, seems like he has 88/AA/AQ and is begging you to call with Qx... although i doubt he plays 88 like this pre

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Originally Posted by eragotte

raise turn?

as played i fold for sure, seems like he has 88/AA/AQ and is begging you to call with Qx... although i doubt he plays 88 like this pre

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I would agree

yeah I think it is fucked fold

- and quad of Qs is definitely possible too

Yea turn was def my mistake, but river shove seemed like he thought he missed value in his turn bet.

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Originally Posted by eragotte

raise turn?

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i think we can get value from AK, AQ type hands, QsXs type hands etc..

as well as setting up a somewhat less awkward river with bet/stack sizes

thoughts on why raising turn is bad?

i dont think anyone said raising turn is bad. I just failed to raise because in the heat of the moment i thought his repeated $5 turn bet was very polarized

Wouldn't a turn bet of $12 be more polarized? I don't see how he bets $5 on this turn with air

yea idk, i figured the only hands that would call a raise, that i beat, would be AQ and maybe AK,kqss.

by polarized i meant nut hands, and weak pair hands that couldn't stand a raise. JJ, QK

umm.. it looks like you have Qx, so he can definitely be value towning himself with a backdoor flush here. I'm probably raising the turn after he bets such a lame amount.

Blah I'd fold this river. I don't think this guy's too likely to have many bd flushes here. He's a 13/8 and you've opened utg, his min 3 betting range is likely pretty damn strong imo and wont contain too many suited cards. Also, the shove sizing on this river looks like it's rarely a bluff and rarely thinish value either. I actually think his range is super strong here, that you have close to a bluff catcher vs this sizing and that this is a pretty easy fold since he's just not bluffing here.

I'd definitely raise the turn for sure because if he's weak, he's likely not pouttin too much more money in anyway on the river, but we can stack his AQ, AK for sure by raising turn and just shoving river.

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umm.. it looks like you have Qx, so he can definitely be value towning himself with a backdoor flush here

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ya i thought this but with AsQs on board not many flushes if any in his river range so if we look like Qx and he cant have flushes its a fold

Raise the flop or the turn.

I don't think I can fold this but im not ecstatic about calling

hmmm if he's doing it with AK more than 25% of the time it's a call, which he probably isn't...
but who cares about river, im leading flop 4 ways, or definitely check raising flop

im not ecstatic about calling but i don't think i can fold this

your line is so incredibly weak he can have bluffs like j10/910 + the odd BD flush so you just can't fold.

i would prefer to fold the turn over raising. as played fold

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

i would prefer to fold the turn over raising. as played fold

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I scrolled up and tried to justify your advice in my head. Then I lolled.