line check with trips facing shove $50NL

I've played over 700 hands with the villain and he is pretty terrible. VPIP 58, PFR 21, 3bet 9.4. He usually short stacks, so it was strange to play with so much effective versus him. I've seen him push on various streets with strong hands with a short stack (top pair decent kicker, two pairs, etc). I've seen him bluff on the river before, but I've never seen him push and show down with a bluff.

Anyway I just wanna know... do I ever beat anything here?

Maybe Axhh and he decided to go crazy after hitting the ace on the river, but that seems like stretching it and I can't think of anything else that I beat. So it seems like it should be an easy fold?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($138.65)
Hero (Button) ($74.55)
SB ($79.20)
BB ($50.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J:spade:, Q:spade:
1 fold, Hero bets $1.50, SB raises $4.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.50) J:heart:, 5:club:, 4:heart: (2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($21.50) J:diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero raises $25, SB calls $17

River: ($71.50) A:diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $43.70 (All-In)

I feel like this is a stupid thread :P

What are his 3bing stats from the sb vs btn steal?

His turn bet size is really weak and if he isn't such a good player then he probably isn't trying to induce a raise from you with it. On the river the only thing you really lose to is AA i feel. I mean maybe he 3b a small pair and flopped a set but its unlikely he would play that way on the turn. I guess it comes down to whether he is bad enough to have some AhXh hands in his range that would spaz out and shove river after making top pair.

5 games 0.005 secs 1,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 5c 4h Jd Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.000% 40.00% 00.00% 2 0.00 { QsJs }
Hand 1: 60.000% 60.00% 00.00% 3 0.00 { AA, AhKh, AhQh }

i'd be so happily calling this shove. looks like missed draw, even a retarded shove with AT rivered TOP PAIR

Don't fold.

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Originally Posted by courtiebee

I feel like this is a stupid thread :P

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It's no such thing.

This is such a dumb line. Dumb line + bad player = snappp

thanks guys

I really feel like he can have something retarded like A3s and was semi-bluffing his wheel draw and hit the A.

I find I'm beat here more than I like vs this line by a bad villain, but it's still a profitable call.

i would probably call with any pair that i made it to the river with lol, definitely at least any good ace+

slightly off topic.. but are there merits to 4betting light here pre flop to say $10-$11 as apposed to just calling..?

ive found at 25nl 6m 4betting these types of somewhat marginal hands for 3bet pots in a CO or Bttn V blinds scenario with a villian who has a high 3bet % to be fairly profitable...

yeah have to call here with A+