Help! : A bunch of FML hands from today's nightmare.

Hand 1 :

Villain is W. Wonka, a good aggro reg, 31/25/10, but I really don't think he's going to get out of line vs me oop 200 bb deep. I know most ppl just jam this flop, but I really don't think i'm ever getting it in vs anything but a set and maybe a minute chance he has 45ss. I think if I shove the river he's folding all worse but I assume I have the best hand so I have to bet...is my size silly? And can I b/fold?

No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($594.40)
BB ($399.30)
UTG ($407.05)
Hero (Button) ($554.48)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A:spade:, 6:spade:
1 fold, Hero bets $10.50, SB calls $9, 1 fold

Flop: ($24) 6:heart:, Q:spade:, 3:spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, SB raises $78, Hero calls $60

Turn: ($180) 4:club: (2 players)
SB bets $135, Hero calls $135

River: ($450) 4:spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $144

Hand 2: Villain is oasis, a sick aggro lagspew reg who is like 30/26/15 and just runs like god vs me for all of eternity. I saw dr. giggy bet this turn in the exact same spot with the logic of 'he can call with two pair and he might not even raise with an 9' so that was my reason for betting turn, but now I have to fold right? And do we agree turn is a bet and not a c/call?

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($745.86)
SB ($402)
BB ($218.10)
UTG ($419.47)
Hero (MP) ($268.73)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10:diamond:, 10:heart:
UTG bets $5.75, Hero calls $5.75, Button calls $5.75, SB calls $4.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($25) 10:club:, 7:club:, J:diamond: (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $18.75, Button calls $18.75, 2 folds

Turn: ($62.50) 8:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $46.87, Button raises $721.36 (All-In), Hero has 200$ behind.

Hand 3: Villan was pretty much unknown and had just sat down. I'm getting great odds but I still have to fold right?

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($252.80)
SB ($84.05)
BB ($235.80)
Hero (UTG) ($195.40)
MP ($228.67)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9:spade:, 10:spade:
Hero bets $7, MP calls $7, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) A:spade:, 9:club:, 9:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $14, MP calls $14

Turn: ($45) 8:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $36, MP calls $36

River: ($117) Q:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $78, MP raises $156, Hero only has 60 behind sigh.

Hand 4: Villa is ChipAdh, a reg running at 25/21/10. His line is so strong it'd be such a sick line to take as a bluff caus I need quads to call right?

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($557.75)
BB ($480.21)
UTG ($376.50)
MP ($469.05)
Hero (Button) ($444.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7:spade:, 7:club:
1 fold, MP bets $7, Hero calls $7, SB calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($23) 8:spade:, 9:heart:, 8:club: (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $17.25, SB calls $17.25, MP calls $17.25

Turn: ($74.75) 2:diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($74.75) 7:heart: (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $60, Hero raises $160, 1 fold, MP raises $384.80 (All-In), Hero has about 120 bb behind and wants to know what fucking planet he is on.


Hand 5: Ok this hand is kind of cool. I would usually bet the flop but limper (MP) is a pretty big whale and I know he would b/call the flop with any pair/draw so I opted for c/raise. On the river, SB can def have 22/65 so I just call and I also don't mind just calling caus I want the fish to overcall with his straight. Then when the fish raises....i mean...puke? He's bad but he's just not doing this with a straight in a limped pot.

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($717.65)
MP ($207.46)
Button ($214.25)
SB ($495.60)
Hero (BB) ($501.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4:diamond:, 4:club:
1 fold, MP calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1, Hero checks

Flop: ($6) 5:club:, 6:diamond:, 4:heart: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($6) 2:spade: (3 players)
SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, MP raises $9, SB calls $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($33) 6:spade: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $16.50, SB raises $65, Hero calls $65, MP raises $97, 1 fold, Hero calls, folds or shoves?


What a day.

Hand 1
-flush, I guess given stack sizes I don't mind a smaller river sizing. I'd probably go like 200ish, I'm not sure if he wouldn't jam a worse flush to such a small sizing otherwise

Hand 2
-I like the turn bet, I'd fold now

Hand 3
-I'm not sure i can fold this hand. He could be doing this with AQ, and he probably has more combos of AQ than other combos that beat us

Hand 4
-This is pretty gross. I think he has 9's full or 8's full of 9's a ton here, especially given flop action. JT is somewhat possible, not sure he's shoving that though.

Hand 5
-I'm pretty torn here given that villain is whale. I'm not even sur ehe'd necessarily raise 56/555/666 on this four straight turn. Against a whale I'd jam this.

1. Why pot it pre? I'd probably b/f 75 on the river.

2. Can't decide if I want to bet the turn vs lagspew.

3. Save the 60 bucks.

4. I don't think you should fold the top of your range at least 100%. I'd flip a coin.

5. Call?

1: flop is good, river sizing is interesting, I think he has 45 hearts, d's alot, or aq/kq, sometimes even a small to medium flush occasionally. I probably just jam.

2. I like the turn bet and I grudgingly call now.

3. Against an unknown I can't fold.

4. preety ez fold, I just don't see players at 200nl ever bluffing you here even if your range is capped at 7s full.

5. jam

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Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101

2. I like the turn bet and I grudgingly call now.

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Don't you think most regs are on the level here where they know a jam on this particular card looks like a draw (given two fd's out), so they ship with a straight often?

Should I bother with results? Pretty simple, I didn't win any of them.

1-theres significantly under pot left, decide whether there is value or not and either jam or check unless you think he will attempt a checkraise bluff giving u like 6 to 1 odds

2-plz check/call turn, there are probably more combos of 9x hands that continue than other- i mean really there's only 87,88,and KQ and all of those would be playing pretty loose to get to the river.

3- yea fold

4- hand reading. what hands does he raise preflop with, check/overcall flop with then bet river big multiway. throw in that no one is going to think you are bluffing when you raise to 160 in this spot, and id rather fold than do what you did

5- its $97 more? i hate converters that say "raises x" instead of "raises to x". seems like a fold but pretty fish dependent

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

1-theres significantly under pot left, decide whether there is value or not and either jam or check unless you think he will attempt a checkraise bluff giving u like 6 to 1 odds

2-plz check/call turn, there are probably more combos of 9x hands that continue than other- i mean really there's only 87,88,and KQ and all of those would be playing pretty loose to get to the river.

3- yea fold

4- hand reading. what hands does he raise preflop with, check/overcall flop with then bet river big multiway. throw in that no one is going to think you are bluffing when you raise to 160 in this spot, and id rather fold than do what you did

5- its $97 more? i hate converters that say "raises x" instead of "raises to x". seems like a fold but pretty fish dependent

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4- I did raise fold the river....are you suggesting i shouldn't raise and just call his initial bet? In retrospect I think ur right (if that's what you suggest) since i'm only getting looked up by the odd j10 and his overcall is so strong on flop - and he probably c-bets j10 anyway as he's pf raiser.

5- yeah he just minreraised and left himself like 100 behind or something.. At this point we're getting ridic odds so I guess we just call.

i think id probably tilt call that one

1) he's not spewy at all, which makes this hand pretty tough. I still think he would shove better on river, so I'd widen his range here to include AQ,AK,KK,AA especially if the BB is StopCatch. Shovy.

BTW when u say 31/25/10, usually the 10 is AF. But all these AF seems fkin high so I assume you mean 3bet% right?

2)agree with nuts, c/c here. I think giggys hand is slightly different but don't remember exactly.

3)sigh fold

4)pretty easy fold i think. MP has the fuckin quads, i dont even think im raising river his line is so gross.

5)easy call, ridic odds. obv don't shove!!

oh shit, yeah i always thought the 3rd number was 3bet%. Good to know. And you are pretty spot on about these. Villain in hand 1 c/called my river bet (didn't c/shove) with 333 for bottom boat....makes no sense since I never have a better boat.

god wat a nit

he's gonna get owned pretty hard postflop in the next cpl months imo