AA bu vs laggy BB 50NL

BB is 19/15/3.5 14% 3bet to steals...is calling down here ok? What kind of turns/rivers would calling not be ok?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($68.65)
MP2 ($51.50)
CO ($16.80)
Hero (Button) ($70.45)
SB ($51.75)
BB ($205.40)
UTG ($51.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/ah.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/as.gif
4 folds, Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/7c.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/tc.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/3d.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $7, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($17.25) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/2s.gif (2 players)
BB bets $9.90, Hero calls $9.90

River: ($37.05) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/4h.gif (2 players)
BB bets $19, Hero calls $19

cbet turn and cbet river stats?

I struggle with spots like this too. I think calling down here is okay given how nicely the board ran out. if he's as laggy as you say he is, his only made hands are 77/33.

i guess i might find a fold somewhere if a flush card or straight card comes in. but i'm a station with overpairs

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Originally Posted by AFchung

cbet turn and cbet river stats?

I struggle with spots like this too. I think calling down here is okay given how nicely the board ran out. if he's as laggy as you say he is, his only made hands are 77/33.

i guess i might find a fold somewhere if a flush card or straight card comes in. but i'm a station with overpairs

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Would cbet turn and river matter here? I thought those stats only counted if the person was the original PFR.

Yea, the board did run out very nicely which made me want to call plus his bet sizing. It wasn't a read or anything but just seemed like a set would be betting bigger for value.

Would there be any reason to 3B flop? If we 3b, are we folding to a jam? That just sucks balls to turn AA here into a bluff. I feel like I would hardly get it in good...at best maybe against a combo FD or something.

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Originally Posted by L_Clan_Sup3rMaN

Would cbet turn and river matter here? I thought those stats only counted if the person was the original PFR.

Yea, the board did run out very nicely which made me want to call plus his bet sizing. It wasn't a read or anything but just seemed like a set would be betting bigger for value.

Would there be any reason to 3B flop? If we 3b, are we folding to a jam? That just sucks balls to turn AA here into a bluff. I feel like I would hardly get it in good...at best maybe against a combo FD or something.

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those stats would help a little bit, it would tell us more about his barrel tendencies. if we know he has like a 30% cbet turn and river, that still gives us some sort of information that he's not willing to barrel light.

against a bad player, 3bing flop is okay. they'll put a lot of money in with Tx, weaker overpairs, and draws (bad draws too, for example 89o). the 30+ vpip donks i'll 3bet them pretty big here before any bad turn card comes to kill our action. by bad i dont mean bad as in a flush card, but bad as in an overcard to his ten which makes him less willing to put money in

against a reg, you definitely can't 3bet/fold the flop. that line sticks so much money in just to end up folding, its better to just call and see a turn. 3bet/calling against a good reg is iffy, because we're essentially hoping he has a combo draw we're flipping against, and his range is going to have not just draws but made hands where we're completely crushed

6c and jc are the worst possible river cards so fold those

not folding here he could even be vbetting worse given his sizing

3bet/folding flop would be awful you gain nothing by raising for info in this spot with these stacks and you're getting it in behind unless you have an aggressive dynamic that warrants a 3bet/get it in line on flop. its unlikely you have this dynamic so just call and bluff catch.

His turn and river sizing are pretty ridiculous if he wants to get value