couple river C/R's

Ello all, i just started playing again and have returned with renewed ambition to improve, so you'll be seeing lots more hands posted by me in months to come.

Villain is 19/15/3.4 7%3b 150hands Other then this I'm readless. Fold good?


$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG AnTman_69 ($72.50)
UTG+1 foul200 ($69.40)
CO igrulya1 ($74.70)
BTN Kitaro002 ($85.55)
SB ironyorick ($75.10)
BB fanny ($50)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) AnTman_69 is UTG :ad: :ah:
AnTman_69 raises to $1.50, 3 folds, ironyorick calls $1.25, fanny calls $1

Flop: :9d: :tc: :qd: ($4.50, 3 players)
ironyorick checks, fanny checks, AnTman_69 bets $3, ironyorick calls $3, fanny folds

Turn: :9h: ($10.50, 2 players)
ironyorick checks, AnTman_69 bets $7, ironyorick calls $7

River: :5s: ($24.50, 2 players)
ironyorick checks, AnTman_69 bets $16, ironyorick goes all-in $63.60




Hand 2

Vill is 25/22/ af 28 3b 11% over 255 hands. He always buys in with like 75bbs; not sure what to make of that. I've been 3betting a tonne on this table due to run good, and this guys folds to 90% of them.
Did i induce?

Note: Vill INSTA snap shoved.


$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ilove3betyou ($50.60)
CO Nossna ($45.80)
BTN AnTman_69 ($55.20)
SB lftim ($73.20)
BB pokerhan888 ($55.80)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) AnTman_69 is BTN :qh: :ks:
ilove3betyou raises to $1.20, 1 fold, AnTman_69 calls $1.20, 2 folds

Flop: :js: :6s: :kd: ($3.15, 2 players)
ilove3betyou bets $1.75, AnTman_69 calls $1.75

Turn: :8h: ($6.65, 2 players)
ilove3betyou bets $4.50, AnTman_69 calls $4.50

River: :td: ($15.65, 2 players)
ilove3betyou checks, AnTman_69 bets $3.50, ilove3betyou goes all-in $43.15

Hand 1 is confusing. i'd snap fold this at the table just because i never expect a nit like this to missippi river bluff 150bb's deep when we have every nut hand in our range lol, but then again i don't understand what boat/straight he has here. nits don't call UTG opens in the SB with T9s, and i'd expect flopped sets to raise somewhere. meh, maybe he c/c'ed flop because of zomg straight possibility and c/c'ed turn 'cause of lol-boat-a-ments, but idk. also, fwiw, we block Axdd. interesting spot, imo, but again i'd fold.

btw, river seems thin to me. i don't expect him to c/c 3 streets from an UTG opener with TPTK here. i'd prolly bet like 10

Hand 2, river seems really thin. don't expect him to barrel much Jx on the turn and he has no worse Kx in his range. if you even remotely consider calling a shove (in other words, if you think he's capable of shoving over with worse) then making this small/thin of a vbet becomes really bad.

oh and inb4 people put villain on an UTG opening range

1 - b/fold river

2 - b/fold $11.50, small bet puts you in strange spot, but as played it's a fold since he's risking so much to win not a lot if he has a missed draw.

In Hand 1 against this specific player I think betting or checking back depends on what level u think ur opponent is on. If he knows that the larger part of ur betting range is AA, KK or AQ or busted draws then he can expect u to be b/f'ing here very often. He could have a ten with a diamond really often and if i were him i would turn in into a bluff in this spot. Im not really sure whether hes going to be paying u off with a Q on this river either so I prefer a check back against this specific guy. Most players at 50NL dont follow through with that check on teh river with thier nutted range either. Its generally a lot of c/c, c/c and then a lead. IF i do bet Im probably calling it off.

In Hand 2 his PFR UTG is a pretty imp stat i think. If its really low I might muck it given that the guy in the middle folded and the guys in teh blinds are solid. If theres a fish in teh blinds id probably flat. IF his PFR UTG is over like 15% I think 3b'ing might be better.AS played id check back on the 10, good for his barreling range, and b/f most other cards. A bet that small would probably get called by qj or q10 but against a guy with those numbers id rather not coz i dont know whether the times u get called by those for that amount would justify the times u get put in this spot.

Also...def raise that flop that flop in hand 1...so many turns kill your action or will put you in a spot to make an incorrect fold or call. If the board was K82ss it'd be a bit different.

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Originally Posted by Ravageur

2 - b/fold $11.50, small bet puts you in strange spot, but as played it's a fold since he's risking so much to win not a lot if he has amissed draw.

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Just curious, what worse do you think calls here? Do you think he has/calls with AT/QTs more than he plays AK+ this way?

standard is to b/f both almost always, especially at low stakes

I'm only tempted to call when villain goes for a c/r and it doesn't make sense for us to be betting wide, or betting at all.

First hand its pretty reasonable for us to be betting, and second hand the draws mostly brick out so it makes sense for him to be checking to us with strength some of the time.

The only hand I'm tempted to call is hand 1 but I'd still fold it and I don't think its very close.

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

The only hand I'm tempted to call is hand 1 but I'd still fold it and I don't think its very close.

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does villain in hand1 have sets in his range when he doesn't c/r until the river?

Hand 1 could be a call vs. some players.

Hand 2: I am pretty much never calling but then again I only bet that river vs huge fish.

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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

Hand 1 could be a call vs. some players.

Hand 2: I am pretty much never calling but then again I only bet that river vs huge fish.

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super good.

defo fold 1. 2 is almost def fold, but it doesnt make a ton of sense to bet here vs someone whos not spazzy and real bad