5nl FR - FD+2P 3-Way on Flop

MP1 is 12/8 over 25, MP2 is 50/17 over 6.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($3.61)
UTG ($5)
UTG+1 ($5.19)
MP1 ($4.41)
MP2 ($3.80)
MP3 ($5)
Hero (CO) ($5.40)
Button ($7.17)
SB ($11.29)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
2 folds, MP1 bets $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.42) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (4 players)
BB bets $0.15, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $0.40, Hero ...

I understand that this one is borderline retarded, but call or raise?

i am reraising here to 1,30 and calling a shove from any.

I'd call here. MP2's range is super wide, so he could be raising with tons of crap we beat just because "omg I have a pair!". And if the BB calls behind, even better.

Why raise and force them both out with a hand that currently only has medium-strength showdown value and lots of room to improve? You're just turning your middle pair into a bluff, when it will work much better as a bluff catcher against these fish.

Looks like a call to me.
We wanna keep the villains range as wide as possible. We've got a strong draw and mid pair so by 3betting we're giving him an opportunity to play correctly against our hand and hit us with another raise that we can't call; but if we just call then he will continue making a mistake with all of his other crap that he's holding.
Plus the BB is still to act so we have no idea how much the next card is really going to cost us. A call might induce the BB to overcall and close the round.
Also, with the A:h: not on the board there's a possibility that our flush will get us flushed.

Call IP, 3b out.

what happends if we call and BB reraises or shoves?

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Originally Posted by Razvan729

what happends if we call and BB reraises or shoves?

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Call.

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Originally Posted by Shotglass

by 3betting we're giving him an opportunity to play correctly against our hand and hit us with another raise that we can't call.

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there is no single line one of these guys could take that would make me fold this hand on the flop

as played both flatting and raising are obviously +EV. i think prefer flatting because it keeps the pot multi-way and doesn't blow the fish out of the water.