200NL paired board

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05-29-2013, 04:42 AM
jackvance

200NL paired board

1. Line check. Should I lead, c/c or c/r like I did for max value?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($389.32)
Hero (BB) ($392.48)
UTG ($209)
MP ($200)
Button ($299.38)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10:spade:, 8:spade:
2 folds, Button bets $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($9) 3:heart:, 10:club:, 3:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5.02, Hero raises to $14

2. Villain has 3bet me a lot in previous hands, that is why I go for a flop c/r. I bet the turn small because there aren't a lot of scary rivers for me and I want to induce aggression. Is this optimal? Now what to do on the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($268.09)
Hero (UTG) ($274.10)
MP ($252.16)
Button ($200)
SB ($266.86)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K:club:, A:diamond:
Hero bets $6, MP raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39) 5:diamond:, A:spade:, 9:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $20, Hero raises to $46, MP calls $26

Turn: ($131) Q:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $42, MP calls $42

River: ($215) 4:spade: (2 players)
Hero?
05-29-2013, 10:09 AM
griffey24

Hand 1 - Think about your entire range. What would the majority of your range do here?

Hand 2 - Meh you say he's 3b you a ton, but then you c/r him? Doesn't go hand in hand. If he's so wide, just let him bluff. I would only c/r if I thought it would lead to more spew.
05-29-2013, 03:50 PM
jackvance

Hand 1, you mean I should always c/c I take it. Results are he reraised to $34 and I folded. Maybe not the best hand to post.

Hand 2, I c/r mainly to not let him cheaply check behind his AJ or w/e on the turn.
05-29-2013, 06:47 PM
pocketfours

1. c/c 2. I'd just 4bet pre. As played c/f river.
05-29-2013, 06:52 PM
jackvance

C/f? I think you must have misread the hand I have TPTK. I bet $87 and he folded. Maybe shoulda jammed to appear bluffy.
05-30-2013, 12:32 PM
griffey24

Hand 1 - see you can't c/r and fold to a 3b, that's the worst. When you c/r you rep pretty much nothing but a FD sometimes and air.. so you're going to get 3b often. If I did happen to c/r this I would jam or peel probably.
06-02-2013, 05:47 AM
pocketfours

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackvance

C/f? I think you must have misread the hand I have TPTK. I bet $87 and he folded. Maybe shoulda jammed to appear bluffy.

Didn't misread. Don't post results they have no relevance whatsoever.
06-02-2013, 07:30 AM
jackvance

Heh I always hate when people don't post results so I'm probably posting them sooner than needed.
06-06-2013, 05:06 PM
aka_red

I can't stop laughing at hand 2. You have no idea what you're doing. You should think about what you're trying to accomplish with each action. Let me help you think it through. I'll start. You called pre to trap him because you think his range is overly wide and you want to extract value from hands that would fold to your 4 bet as you think he will not play back at lightly. On the flop you check raise to $46 because...?
06-06-2013, 07:01 PM
jackvance

Is that still true when c/r range on the flop has a lot of bluffs in it, like is the case with me? I felt I had to put some actual hands in there too because people won't believe it if they have been paying attention or have stats on me. So I'm not feeling that bad about the c/r personally. On the turn maybe shoulda checked, or on the river. I bet $80 on the river and he folded.
06-07-2013, 01:52 AM
Micro2Macro

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackvance

Is that still true when c/r range on the flop has a lot of bluffs in it, like is the case with me? I felt I had to put some actual hands in there too because people won't believe it if they have been paying attention or have stats on me. So I'm not feeling that bad about the c/r personally. On the turn maybe shoulda checked, or on the river. I bet $80 on the river and he folded.

questions to stimulate some thought:

why does your c/r range have a lot of bluffs on this flop?

what does c/r'ing this hand do to your c/c range? How do you think people perceive your c/c range?

what do you think villains range is going in to the turn?
06-07-2013, 02:09 AM
jackvance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

questions to stimulate some thought:

why does your c/r range have a lot of bluffs on this flop?

You are right in that I don't really have a big bluff frequency in this particular situation if I think about it.

Quote:

what does c/r'ing this hand do to your c/c range? How do you think people perceive your c/c range?

Yeah it weakens it.

Quote:

what do you think villains range is going in to the turn?

AJ-like

Btw this isn't how I play this hand standard, was more the thing I felt like at that moment, but I wasn't so sure about afterwards. Mixing it up every now and then is good imo, as long as your line is still decent. This probably wasn't yeah.