Good FD with two overs - flop gets 3bet

Villain is 20/15, not so many hands yet (40ish) but shaping up like a fairly standard tag.


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BTN: $24.45 (97.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $41.23 (164.9 bb)
BB: $29.84 (119.4 bb)
UTG: $51.92 (207.7 bb)
MP: $84.55 (338.2 bb)
CO: $52.31 (209.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:diamond: K:diamond:
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: ($1.75) J:diamond: 4:diamond: 6:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $3.75, UTG raises to $9.75

Hero???

:puke: fold. There's just no way Hero has 15 clean outs to :shipit:.

In general, If I don't know how I'm going to respond to a raise, then I don't bet. Except that sometimes, Villain's sizing is enough to make my head twitch. Villain's repping pretty strong here, though.

I can see the merits of a call, but I think it's kind of spewey, since Hero doesn't have A:d:.

EDIT: It took a long time to come up with that scant analysis, but here's my thinking:
If Villain has Axdd, Hero has to pay it off when flush hits. JJ+ is in Villain's range, so Hero can't be ecstatic when the K or Q binks. TT- is unlikely to b/r OTF. Villain never has a straight draw or small pair here.

Do you not think this is quite an easy fold pre? Villain is opening a tight range so his range crushes us and we don't know how he plays post.

I don't understand why we can't just x/c when we flop a shit load of equity.

how the hell could this ever possibly be a fold pre

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Originally Posted by bikes

how the hell could this ever possibly be a fold pre

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If villain is opening something like 22+, AJ+, ATs, KQ (and it's realistic to be tighter than this) playing this hand OOP just seems to suck balls.

Yeah I am prob just c/c the flop.

This deep I'm calling flop OOP, and prob raising flop IP.

i'd probably C/C the flop, with Axdd i don't mind the C/R as much because we can jam and not risk being snapped off by better draws - being 3b with this hand sucks slightly more for that reason and makes me wanna just c/c it.

as played i feel crushed and want to fold. can't see us getting it in with more than 30% if we jam and calling sucks because we may have some RIO vs his nut flushes, and our equity diminishes with each street (assuming his range is pretty de-polarised once he 3bs flop)