TT in SB facing UTG open from relative unknown

I feel like I played this hand quite badly (which is why I'm posting it) but I have no idea what I could do better, so I'm really interested to hear analysis at every point in the hand.

UTG is 22/19 over a very small sample (30 hands) so likely to be standard TAG probably. I know absolutely nothing about BB.

I 3bet pre because I feel like my hand is too strong to just fold, but too weak to call OOP.

OTF, I feel like not only can UTG stab because of position, but also after the preflop action, he can't feel super comfortable being checkraised here if he holds AQ/AJ, I think we can discount AA/KK because he's unlikely to want it going 3way once the SB calls preflop.

As far as plans for future streets go, if I get raised on the flop I'm obv folding, and if I get called on the flop, I'm planning on shoving any non A/Q/J turn and giving up on an A, Q or J.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $34.11 (136.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $33.70 (134.8 bb)
BB: $28.39 (113.6 bb)
UTG: $70.40 (281.6 bb)
MP: $25.35 (101.4 bb)
CO: $12.85 (51.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T:heart: T:club:
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, BB calls $2, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.75) J:spade: 2:club: Q:diamond: (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $3.50, Hero raises to $9.75,

Yeah I don't like any of this. I'd flat 100% preflop, turning TT into a bluff makes no sense and oop in a 3 bet pot vs a strong continuing range is going to be very unpleasant whenever we don't flop a set. Just take the good pot odds with deep stacks and flat, your hand plays fine on lots of flops and set mining vs the UTG open is also nice. AQo might be too weak to flat due to it's reverse implied odds and lack of implied odds, TT is not because the opposite is true, let's just not stack off because we flop an overpair and we'll do fine here.

Postflop is insanely spewy, c/f flop. UTG's range looks fairly strong here, he probably has both JJ and QQ. Trying to make people fold AQ here is also really sketchy without reads, you have a cold caller behind who can easily have the nuts here, and lastly your equity is awful.

Sorry why is TT too weak to call OOP?

TT is too weak to 3b OOP vs an utg opener, that much is guaranteed!

I'm calling almost always and only 3b the biggest fish.

Also why are you turning TT into a bluff here? Jx is checking back on the flop, Qx+ is betting and not folding to a c/r. So what are you hoping to b/f ?

Also BB is still left to act which sucks too, esp since he cold called pre and has shown strength.

Don't like any of it imo.

I sometimes flat or 3bet TT. Flatting is better against a strong range I think. If 3betting I almost always cbet because people flatting 3bets play very fit or fold. If you had flatted pre c/f'ing the flop would be standard.

The flop c/r is ballsy but I don't like it because I think the only hands you get to fold are AJ and maybe KQ. I doubt AQ folds. Other than that you're only folding hands you already beat like AK and 33-99. I'd like the c/r a lot better for example if it was heads up and you had a gutter like AK or 98.

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Originally Posted by griffey24

Sorry why is TT too weak to call OOP?

TT is too weak to 3b OOP vs an utg opener, that much is guaranteed!

I'm calling almost always and only 3b the biggest fish.

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OK, looks like I undervalue TT here, as I feel like it's way too weak to flat OOP against an UTG open. If you're flatting it, are you basically setmining mostly? Don't you feel it's hard to play OOP on a ton of runouts, like if we c/c a favourable flop, there are lots of bad turns, then if we c/c an OK turn, there are lots of bad rivers (and a bloated pot).

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Also why are you turning TT into a bluff here? Jx is checking back on the flop, Qx+ is betting and not folding to a c/r. So what are you hoping to b/f ?

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Well I was actually trying to fold AQ and AJ which I don't think checks back so much because it's quite vulnerable and the pot is 3way, so I think with position, AJ probably bets the flop a fair bit. I think he can also have KQ sometimes.

You also say AQ (or Qx) isn't folding, but I had planned to shove any non A/Q/J turn, but I guess there's too much else other than AQ that I can be spewing into if I do that.

I obviously mangled this hand, so I'm not saying all this to try and justify my play, just to state the reasons at the time why I did it.

Remember that a tight utg open is like half big aces and half pocket pairs, hands with showdown value. So if he doesn't hit a set or tptk and he calls your cbet, you might very well get to showdown, esp against a weaktight reg, where you'll be good a decent amount of the time.

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Originally Posted by abelardx

if he doesn't hit a set or tptk and he calls your cbet, you might very well get to showdown

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I'm OOP without the initiative, so although I recognise what you're saying about him having SDV, I think I don't so often get to showdown - sure, if he's weaktight I can be good sometimes, but like I said in my reply above to Griffey I think if I get a good flop and call his cbet, there are lots of bad turns for me etc.