5nl 6-max JTs Top Two From SB

A hands from a small session I just played.

Hand 1

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Poker Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($5.98)
MP ($5)
CO ($11.08)
Button ($2.57)
Hero (SB) ($10.15)
BB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
UTG raises $0.15, 2 folds, Button calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.31, 1 fold, Hero raises $1.50, UTG calls $1.19

Turn: ($3.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4.40, UTG calls $4.33 (All-In)

River: ($12.16) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)


UTG is 37/29 after 80 hands, cb flop 6/9 times. Has made a few silly calls and turned 77 into a bluff for seemingly no reason and bet 3 streets w/KQs on Axx w/fd blank turn and A river.

BTN is looking to be a weaktight player 18/13 after 40 hands and not really done anything of note.

Pre I think calling here is fairly standard, can't really think of any benefits to 3betting in this spot, but feel free to correct me.

Flop I'm obviously chuffed, UTGs range isn't going to be all that strong but the board is fairly wet and I think he's cbetting plenty here and rarely folding which makes x/r the best play especially as we can hopefully the BTN to put some money into the pot with a call, don't see any point in not raising bit and charging him to chase his draws. Obviously snapping a shove, when UTG does flat I think he doesn't have any sets in his range.

Worth noting here that UTG banks and clicks call after using like 10 seconds of his time bank which makes me believe he is incredibly draw heavy in this spot, is this a bad assumption? I also think he may have the odd hands like AJ.

Turn is a pretty blank card and if he can't fold his draws on the flop why would he want to be folding them now after already calling a big bet, same for any TP type hands after no draws get there. If he can convince himself I'm bluffing on the flop, why not here too? The shove also definitely was influenced by the fact that I couldn't see any other way to go about sizing it.

I like all streets with the exception of the flop sizing which I might go a little larger with.

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Originally Posted by ImSavy

Pre I think calling here is fairly standard, can't really think of any benefits to 3betting in this spot, but feel free to correct me.

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Calling vs folding pros and cons of both. Depends somewhat on bb's tendencies. 3b would be bad.

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Originally Posted by ImSavy

Flop I'm obviously chuffed, UTGs range isn't going to be all that strong but the board is fairly wet and I think he's cbetting plenty here and rarely folding which makes x/r the best play especially as we can hopefully the BTN to put some money into the pot with a call, don't see any point in not raising bit and charging him to chase his draws. Obviously snapping a shove, when UTG does flat I think he doesn't have any sets in his range.

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nice, especially the part in bold
turn shove is the only sizing that makes sense to me too.
nh

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Originally Posted by daven

Calling vs folding pros and cons of both. Depends somewhat on bb's tendencies. 3b would be bad.

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Yeah. I should have said bb was 0/0 after like 8 hands.

If people are happy with this line, what other hands are they playing in the same way?

Your sizing both flop and turn are much bigger than I'd go, which I'd assume means I'm not betting enough, rather than you betting too much. I'd be making flop raise sizing sufficient to get stacks in by river, but here you succeed in doing so by turn, which is obviously better. I suppose we're not expecting this guy to get away from his top pair hands, hell he might even stack KQ on the turn. I like your sizing more than I like mine.

I like it!

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Your sizing both flop and turn are much bigger than I'd go, which I'd assume means I'm not betting enough, rather than you betting too much. I'd be making flop raise sizing sufficient to get stacks in by river, but here you succeed in doing so by turn, which is obviously better. I suppose we're not expecting this guy to get away from his top pair hands, hell he might even stack KQ on the turn. I like your sizing more than I like mine.

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Flop is only pot sized. It's rare I ever go anything > pot when raising and usually I do tend to go closer to 70% in a lot of spots but I am starting to think that this is too small against most players I come across.

Not the most elegant sizing to leave more than pot behind on the turn, but obviously fine.

When you c/r flop, did you do so with the intention of jamming all turn cards?

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Originally Posted by ImSavy

Flop is only pot sized. It's rare I ever go anything > pot when raising and usually I do tend to go closer to 70% in a lot of spots but I am starting to think that this is too small against most players I come across.

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Not betting huge with big hands against most opponents is still seriously value cutting yourself at this stake.

I wouldn't exactly be loving life to see the Ac or Kc.

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Originally Posted by ImSavy

If people are happy with this line, what other hands are they playing in the same way?

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At 5nl, I'm only c/r JTs, sets and a bunch of big combo draws and likely jamming the turn with all of these. Not exactly a huge amount of combos as a % of my flatting range in this spot, but that's not a huge problem at 5nl.

The question is: what are we donking here if not these hands? Should we be donking?