Limping in with AA from EP

Limping with AA from an early position on a full table is a deception play that I've used a few times, but just like slow play you need to have the right table conditions.

Here is my list of conditions:
o Players that are unlikely to cold call your pre-flop raise from early position.
o Players that are raising a lot of junk or maginal hands. Particulary ones that like to raise to 2x the BB allowing you a chance to play back at them.
o The ability to laydown a pair of Aces if no one bites and you fail to make a set.

I'd still feel more comfortable if the pot was raised, but i've done it a few times, call utg, hoping someone would raise it, so I can reraise them back.

I understand the strategy and agree with it to an extent, but the way I look at it is, if you aren't willing to bet AA, what hand is worth betting? 99% of the time I'm raising with AA.

It's not a matter of betting AA. It's a matter of figuring out how to get the particular opponents you're facing right now to put as many chips as possible into the center of the table when you have it.

Like I said, it's a very conditional play.

i would say that u cant call and raise anything other than all in.

if u go all in your usualy instantley put on a bluff coz lots ov blinds and you will often get a couple ov players and make 3 x.

if it gets to the flop then you gotta check call realey incase ov 2pairs or better.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

i would say that u cant call and raise anything other than all in.

if u go all in your usualy instantley put on a bluff coz lots ov blinds and you will often get a couple ov players and make 3 x.

if it gets to the flop then you gotta check call realey incase ov 2pairs or better.

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I really like to come out firing if the board doesn't pair on the flop and there is at least one or even two overcards. No flushes/straights of course. I still have top pair with AA and a strong bet can run off somebody because they might put you on KK, QQ, or even JJ if you bet and one of those cards is on the board.

Even if somebody does hit the lesser overcard, you are still sitting pretty with top pair and prepared to reraise or look at another card.

Any thoughts on this play?

heres my latest result with limping in with AA.


***** Hand History for Game 506792630 *****
Table antiquity (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: Sir_John ( $161.7 )
Seat 7: Domingo400 ( $116.5 )
Seat 8: junell ( $114.45 )
Seat 9: freeput ( $96 )
Seat 6: toekneechin ( $94 )
Seat 1: Nosnews ( $98.7 )
Seat 5: FiremanRich ( $98 )
Seat 4: Bored_Now ( $100 )
Seat 10: DanielShawn ( $98 )
Seat 3: AL_17 ( $31 )
AL_17 posts small blind [$1].
Bored_Now posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to toekneechin [ Ac Ah ]
FiremanRich folds.
toekneechin calls [$2].
Domingo400 folds.
junell folds.
freeput folds.
DanielShawn folds.
Nosnews folds.
Sir_John calls [$2].
AL_17 calls [$1].
Bored_Now checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 2c, Ad ]
AL_17 checks.
Bored_Now checks.
toekneechin bets [$2].
Sir_John raises [$10].
AL_17 folds.
Bored_Now folds.
toekneechin is all-In.
Sir_John calls [$82].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
Sir_John shows [ 2d, As ] two pairs, aces and twos.
toekneechin shows [ Ac, Ah ] three of a kind, aces.
toekneechin wins $189 from the main pot with three of a kind, aces.


its risky but when u hit a hand u can easily double up. The flop couldn't be better. It gave me top set and had a flush draw on the board so I bet min representing a flush draw semi bluff hoping someone with the other Ace would raise against the draw, then I could go all in against him. And that's exactly what happened. I had the Ac so I knew whoever was drawing to a flush would not have the nuts flush and I could easily represent the nut flush against them.

Wow..
I can't believe how that hand played out.
If it was me I would have gotten smacked by the flush draw.

well if he had a flush draw and called my all in, he'd be giving me great odds which I'd take any day. I had the Ac so I knew he didn't have top pair and a flush draw with it. In either case, that's why I went all in because if he didn't have a flush draw and another club came it would be very hard to get the rest of his chips in and if he did have a flush draw, I wanted him to pay for it up front.

yep yep..

There is no way he could have called your bet on the flush draw.. now if that was the $25 tables they would have :)

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Originally Posted by mike4066

yep yep..

There is no way he could have called your bet on the flush draw.. now if that was the $25 tables they would have :)

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at the $25 tables, theyd call an all in if they can backdoor a flush.

My experience is you need to drive playes out preflop. If you let too many players limp in you can easily let someone flop two pair or a strong enough draw to beat you at the end. The preflop bet, however, is more important with lesser cards like KK QQ JJ or AK, AQ, KQ, KJ what have you. IF you are able to limit the pot to but one or two other players with such a hand you can often drive them out with a bet on the flop or turn if any face card is on the board, even if you dont have it......but of course knowing and being able to read your opponents is still helpful in guiding such a move

What can go bad when u try to limp in...

***** Hand History for Game 519544249 *****
Table Table 14074 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: GolfPro2003 ( $40.6 )
Seat 3: JackMancuso ( $81.51 )
Seat 6: geoapa2 ( $6.45 )
Seat 8: iffasum ( $32 )
Seat 10: toekneechin ( $26.15 )
Seat 5: jay096 ( $25 )
iffasum posts small blind [$0.25].
toekneechin posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to toekneechin [ 4h 2h ]
GolfPro2003 folds.
JackMancuso calls [$0.5].
jay096 calls [$0.5].
geoapa2 folds.
iffasum calls [$0.25].
toekneechin checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 7h, 4c ]
iffasum checks.
toekneechin checks.
JackMancuso checks.
jay096 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
iffasum checks.
toekneechin bets [$0.5].
JackMancuso calls [$0.5].
jay096 calls [$0.5].
iffasum folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
toekneechin bets [$0.5].
JackMancuso raises [$1].
jay096 folds.
toekneechin is all-In.
JackMancuso calls [$24.15].
JackMancuso shows [ Ks, Kd ] two pairs, kings and fours.
toekneechin shows [ 4h, 2h ] a full house, Fours full of twos.
toekneechin wins $51.80 from the main pot with a full house, Fours full of twos.

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Originally Posted by toekneechin

What can go bad when u try to limp in...

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...and can't make a laydown.

...and think your Aces without a set are a monster worth slow playing after the (paired) flop in a four-way pot.

...and think a minimum raise of a minimum bet with a lukewarm hand is a solid play on the river.

O< P $

I hope you hung around long enough to take the rest of his stack.

this is a tough one - i got my AA cracked on saturday night by a someone that stayed in with Q6s after my $2 pre flop raise. i was afraid if i raised anymore, everyone would fold. the flop: Q 6 rag. ahhhhh! :x at least i only lost about $7 due to their small stack.

3 hands later, i get pocket KK so i come out with a $5 pre flop raise and get 4 callers - not quite what i wanted! the flop is crap so i go all in, 3 of the callers fold, one matches my all in. i win the hand. the one guy's hand that stayed in: Q2s with no flush/straight draw or pair on the flop???

if people would just play right! :?

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Originally Posted by fishstick

this is a tough one - i got my AA cracked on saturday night by a someone that stayed in with Q6s after my $2 pre flop raise. i was afraid if i raised anymore, everyone would fold. the flop: Q 6 rag. ahhhhh! :x at least i only lost about $7 due to their small stack.

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His implied pot odds calling with Q6s sucked. Not a loss to worry about.

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Originally Posted by fishstick

if people would just play right! :?

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I would have to find a new hobby...