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08-10-2004, 12:29 AM
allLiving

100% pot odds!

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PokerStars Game #604988315: Tournament #2309882, Hold'em No Limit - Level II
(15/30) - 2004/08/10 - 00:24:43 (ET)
Table '2309882 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: HighStakesAA (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: Mike 2003 (1310 in chips)
Seat 5: allLiving (1450 in chips)
Seat 6: drudown14 (1410 in chips)
Seat 7: SlyGrin (1785 in chips)
Seat 8: SilvioH (2160 in chips)
Seat 9: jbrowns (710 in chips)
Seat 3: steven12253 (2015 in chips)
Seat 4: heaneyho (1240 in chips)
jbrowns: posts small blind 15
HighStakesAA: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [9s 9c]
Mike 2003: folds
steven12253: calls 30
heaneyho: folds
allLiving: calls 30
drudown14: folds
SlyGrin: calls 30
SilvioH: calls 30
jbrowns: calls 15
HighStakesAA: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 3d 9h]
jbrowns: checks
HighStakesAA: checks
steven12253: bets 60
allLiving: raises 120 to 180
SlyGrin: calls 180
SilvioH: folds
jbrowns: folds
HighStakesAA: folds
steven12253: calls 120
*** TURN *** [5h 3d 9h] [Ac]
steven12253: checks
allLiving: bets 700
SlyGrin: calls 700
allLiving said, "pot odds are not with you"
allLiving said, "fold"
steven12253: calls 700
*** RIVER *** [5h 3d 9h Ac] [7h]
steven12253: checks
allLiving: bets 540 and is all-in
SlyGrin: calls 540
steven12253: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
allLiving: shows [9s 9c] (three of a kind, Nines)
SlyGrin: shows [3h 2h] (a flush, Nine high)
SlyGrin collected 3900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3900 | Rake 0
Board [5h 3d 9h Ac 7h]
Seat 1: HighStakesAA (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Mike 2003 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: allLiving showed [9s 9c] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 6: drudown14 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SlyGrin showed [3h 2h] and won (3900) with a flush, Nine high
Seat 8: SilvioH (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: jbrowns (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: steven12253 folded on the River
Seat 4: heaneyho folded before Flop (didn't bet)
08-10-2004, 05:42 AM
Toasty

Ouch that sux, he couldn't resist the FD and GS.

One question though, if you pegged him for a flush draw, why did you push the rest of your chips in once it landed ?
08-10-2004, 11:26 AM
allLiving

IT's one of those stupid, "I don't care" moves... I had to see that he was chasing the flush draw and there wasn't much I could've done with those last chips.
08-10-2004, 11:31 AM
allLiving

Now that I look at it, it was 540 chips... I guess it was just a stupid all in.
08-10-2004, 03:49 PM
Fnord

Push on the turn?
08-12-2004, 10:59 AM
stevedonel

definately all-in on the turn. You know your set is good at that point, he might have the A-h, but your still winning. You also have 10 outs to hit a full house or quads, where he has 9 outs to hit his flush.

But you have to let him take it at the river, that 540 is something you can work with short-stack strategy.
08-12-2004, 11:36 AM
Toasty

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdu steve

You also have 10 outs to hit a full house or quads, where he has 9 outs to hit his flush.

In hindsight he actually only had 7 outs to the flush and 3 outs to the straight leaving him 36 non-outs, where you win. Don't you hate it when the dogs win :(
08-12-2004, 12:29 PM
JJgoneMAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Push on the turn?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdu steve

definately all-in on the turn. You know your set is good at that point

Question guys. Flush draw willing to call 700 at the turn. Would have AI, 540 more chips made any difference to that lunatic? Holding 3h 2h hoping to make flush at the river, even if the caller knew exactly what allLiving was playing.. do you think he's sane? I think AI would work to a sane person in that situation, i don't see him folding to AI. I have been put in a similar situation, i'm really asking for you guys' opinions based on your experience.
08-12-2004, 06:30 PM
michael1123

The guy had 4 more outs that you guys aren't counting, with an inside straight draw. Not that I'm excusing the call, but he was probably considering that as well.

And an all in is nearly twice the number of chips the guy would have to call. He is more likely to fold to that. Exactly how much more likey he is to fold, who knows.
08-12-2004, 06:46 PM
Toasty

I think i mentioned the outs in my post :)
08-12-2004, 06:46 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJgoneMAD

Question guys. Flush draw willing to call 700 at the turn. Would have AI, 540 more chips made any difference to that lunatic? Holding 3h 2h hoping to make flush at the river, even if the caller knew exactly what allLiving was playing.. do you think he's sane? I think AI would work to a sane person in that situation, i don't see him folding to AI. I have been put in a similar situation, i'm really asking for you guys' opinions based on your experience.

Sure as hell beats paying him off when he hits his draw.