Can you play $100 NL like Gus Hansen and be a success?
After being absolutely killed this month, so far playing 13% of the hands. I m down a grand thru 6000 hands. :( :( All my big hands are losers or even except for AA. We are talking KK(loser), AKs(even), AKo(loser), QQ(even), JJ(huge loser), AQs(loser), and AQo(loser).
I cant help but see the people at the table with most of the money are split evenly between very tight (10-15% flops) and Gamblers (45% flops). Can you be successful playing that many hands and getting away from non winners post flop?
Also is changing it up thru the game, play a bunch then tighten up a good idea? I ve become such a stat watcher on PT that 18% feels super Laggy.
I feel like I just started this fricken game, with what has been happening lately. I know confidence has nothing to do with the cards that fall but I feel at the moment like it wont matter I have TPTK someone has two pair. :? :? I cant tell you how many times I had AK, raised to $8 or $9 and lost to AJ, AJ8 on flop and I am screwed. Or I raise 4xbb with AA and 22 calls and hits a set.
Can you play bunch of flops see what hits and be good enough to drop strong hands when you are beaten? I am at my wits end. Being very patient with horrible cards (13%), lose when I hit (down $1000). Change games? Played 2 fricken Sng's to avoid tilt, and bubbled both to draw outs. :x :x
Any helpful ideas? I did move down to $50nl and just had the same results, I am staying there I build the BR up again. The thing that ticks me off the most is that I am not getting beaten by better players for the most part, I am getting beaten by the cards. I was going to post some more HH's but I have for the past week and everyone has said for the most part I did what I suppose too, but still lost big.
Sorry for the rant? Just at wits end! Its not the money as much as the not winning, not to say of course $1000 is a large amount of money.
Once again srry for the rant. SC
Re: Can you play $100 NL like Gus Hansen and be a success?
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Originally Posted by scgolfer
Can you be successful playing that many hands and getting away from non winners post flop?
In limit, no way. In No Limit, particularly short handed against thinking players with deep money, yes!
At the lower levels NL is a nut peddling game. Make a top pairish hand and watch them call off their stack with all sorts of crap. Push AA/KK pre-flop and not be surpised when TT calls, etc. All of this was going on durring the golden age of Party Poker $25 full before 6 max came around. 6 max still plays like this, but with the blinds comming around twice as often camping premium hands isn't as profitable.
At higher levels with deeper money it's a game of people as much as cards. I see hand histories posted here all the time without reguard to reads or table texture. This works fine for low stakes NL nut peddling or full ring limit games (where 95% of your decisions are straight forward.) When you move up and into short-handed games the people become more important as the amount of piss-poor play decreases. This is even more important in NL vs Limit as well because you have bigger decisions to make with less action to work from.
Another thing to keep in mind is that when you're seeing 30-45% of flops your variance goes through the roof. Short-term you can expect to strike it big or bust or both really fast. Which could explain the short term results you see for players. The long-term outlook is much fuzzier.
Anyway, this is more or less along the lines of what I discovered as I tried to move up as a cash NL player.
I imagine Ttanka, Eric, Xianti, The Natural, etc. might have more to add here as they're still playing these games activly...
Re: Can you play $100 NL like Gus Hansen and be a success?
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Originally Posted by scgolfer
After being absolutely killed this month, so far playing 13% of the hands. I m down a grand thru 6000 hands. :( :( All my big hands are losers or even except for AA. We are talking KK(loser), AKs(even), AKo(loser), QQ(even), JJ(huge loser), AQs(loser), and AQo(loser).
I cant help but see the people at the table with most of the money are split evenly between very tight (10-15% flops) and Gamblers (45% flops). Can you be successful playing that many hands and getting away from non winners post flop?
I don't play regularly at the limits you do, but I have to wonder if you can be succesful seeing only 13% of flops. It seems like this would drastically decrease your likelihood of getting paid off. If you're losing with KK but your win percentage is still high, that suggests that you are losing big pots and winning small ones.
Some of the biggest pots I've won in $100 max buy-in or $200 max buy-in have been limped small suited connectors and one-gappers that hit a flop big. If you are only playing 13% of flops, I'd guess you're not playing hands like that. It helps your table image to show those hands down every once in a while too.
