Criticize me.

Here's a few hands from tonight.

The first 2 hands deal with the flush draw. I believe the pot odds justified me staying in the hands.
CARDSON

***** Hand History for Game 1259991807 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7657846) - Sat Dec 04 21:04:07 EST 2004
Table Table 13810 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: MR_PLAYA_ (705)
Seat 2: zakszaks (740)
Seat 3: isseice (1470)
Seat 5: jaimeemg (805)
Seat 6: ngericl (910)
Seat 8: kendchand (2275)
Seat 9: judoknow (1095)
ngericl posts small blind (25)
kendchand posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ngericl [ Ac, Tc ]
kendchand: nh
judoknow folds.
MR_PLAYA_ folds.
zakszaks folds.
isseice raises (100) to 100
jaimeemg folds.
ngericl calls (75)
kendchand calls (50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5s, 3c, 2c ]
ngericl checks.
kendchand bets (50)
isseice calls (50)
ngericl calls (50)
This is an easy call, yes?
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
ngericl checks.
kendchand bets (150)
isseice calls (150)
ngericl raises (760) to 760
ngericl is all-In.
Should I have slow-played instead of going the aggressive route?
kendchand folds.
isseice folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1510 with ngericl
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1510
Board: [ 5s 3c 2c 5c ]
MR_PLAYA_ balance 705, didn't bet (folded)
zakszaks balance 740, didn't bet (folded)
isseice balance 1170, lost 300 (folded)
jaimeemg balance 805, didn't bet (folded)
ngericl balance 1510, bet 910, collected 1510, net +600
kendchand balance 1975, lost 300 (folded)
judoknow balance 1095, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1260033646 *****
jaimeemg finished in seventh place.
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7657846) - Sat Dec 04 21:14:37 EST 2004
Table Table 13810 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: MR_PLAYA_ (1060)
Seat 2: zakszaks (715)
Seat 3: isseice (920)
Seat 6: ngericl (1585)
Seat 8: kendchand (1810)
Seat 9: judoknow (1910)
isseice posts small blind (50)
ngericl posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ngericl [ Jc, 3c ]
kendchand folds.
judoknow folds.
MR_PLAYA_ calls (100)
zakszaks folds.
isseice calls (50)
ngericl checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kc, 9h, 9c ]
isseice checks.
ngericl bets (100)
Questionable, but testing the waters.
MR_PLAYA_ calls (100)
isseice folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5s ]
ngericl checks.
MR_PLAYA_ bets (100)
ngericl calls (100)
Is this the right decision? As I understand it, the pot odds would say it is.
** Dealing River ** : [ Ac ]
ngericl bets (760)
MR_PLAYA_ calls (760)
MR_PLAYA_ is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2220 with MR_PLAYA_
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2220 |
Board: [ Kc 9h 9c 5s Ac ]
MR_PLAYA_ balance 0, lost 1060 [ Ad Ks ] [ two pairs, aces and kings -- Ad,Ac,Ks,Kc,9h ]
zakszaks balance 715, didn't bet (folded)
isseice balance 820, lost 100 (folded)
ngericl balance 2745, bet 1060, collected 2220, net +1160 [ Jc 3c ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ac,Kc,Jc,9c,3c ]
kendchand balance 1810, didn't bet (folded)
judoknow balance 1910, didn't bet (folded)

The following hand was more difficult. Believe me, I thought about it long and hard. Maybe it was the wrong decision. Again, I think the pot odds justified the call.

***** Hand History for Game 1260045954 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7657846) - Sat Dec 04 21:17:41 EST 2004
Table Table 13810 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: zakszaks (715)
Seat 3: isseice (820)
Seat 6: ngericl (2695)
Seat 8: kendchand (2260)
Seat 9: judoknow (1510)
judoknow posts small blind (100)
zakszaks posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ngericl [ Jd, Kd ]
isseice folds.
ngericl calls (200)
kendchand folds.
judoknow calls (100)
zakszaks checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, 7h, 9s ]
judoknow checks.
zakszaks checks.
ngericl bets (200)
judoknow folds.
zakszaks raises (515) to 515
zakszaks is all-In.
ngericl calls (315)
Right here. Do I or don't I? Do I or don't I? Do I or don't I?
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 3h ]
Creating Main Pot with $1630 with zakszaks
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1630 |
Board: [ 6d 7h 9s 5h 3h ]
zakszaks balance 1630, bet 715, collected 1630, net +915 [ Ac 3d ] [ a pair of threes -- Ac,9s,7h,3d,3h ]
isseice balance 820, didn't bet (folded)
ngericl balance 1980, lost 715 [ Jd Kd ] [ high card king -- Kd,Jd,9s,7h,6d ]
kendchand balance 2260, didn't bet (folded)
judoknow balance 1310, lost 200 (folded)

For the next hand, the thinking was: The guy is short-stacked. Here's a chance to pick him off. If he's holding two overs, it's a coin-flip. I go all-in to scare off anybody after me. I want this to be heads-up.

***** Hand History for Game 1260057331 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7657846) - Sat Dec 04 21:20:32 EST 2004
Table Table 13810 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: zakszaks (1530)
Seat 3: isseice (520)
Seat 6: ngericl (2280)
Seat 8: kendchand (2260)
Seat 9: judoknow (1410)
ngericl posts small blind (100)
kendchand posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ngericl [ 7c, 7h ]
judoknow folds.
zakszaks folds.
isseice raises (520) to 520
isseice is all-In.
ngericl raises (2180) to 2280
ngericl is all-In.
kendchand folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qs, 8h, 6h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2h ]
Creating Main Pot with $1240 with isseice
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1760 with ngericl
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1240 | Side Pot 1: 1760
Board: [ Qs 8h 6h Td 2h ]
zakszaks balance 1530, didn't bet (folded)
isseice balance 0, lost 520 [ 3s 3d ] [ a pair of threes -- Qs,Td,8h,3s,3d ]
ngericl balance 3000, bet 2280, collected 3000, net +720 [ 7c 7h ] [ a pair of sevens -- Qs,Td,8h,7c,7h ]
kendchand balance 2060, lost 200 (folded)
judoknow balance 1410, didn't bet (folded)

This last one, I think I should've slow-played a bit.

***** Hand History for Game 1260081242 *****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 7657846) - Sat Dec 04 21:26:30 EST 2004
Table Table 13810 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 6: ngericl (4200)
Seat 8: kendchand (3800)
ngericl posts small blind (150)
kendchand posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ngericl [ Ks, Kc ]
ngericl calls (150)
kendchand raises (300) to 600
ngericl raises (3900) to 4200
ngericl is all-In.
I'm thinking: I want to get all his chips in before the flop. I don't want to see an A come on board and have to react to him. I want to dictate the action.
kendchand folds.
Instead, he folds. Now I wonder if I had slow-played it, then could I've taken more chips from him? Assuming my kk was good enough, of course.
Creating Main Pot with $4800 with ngericl
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4800
ngericl balance 4800, bet 4200, collected 4800, net +600
kendchand balance 3200, lost 600 (folded)

I guess if there's one theme to these hands, it's: "Do you want to gamble, or not?" Tell me what y'all think. Thanks.

Hand 1 was ok. If you give the free card, what are you hoping for? Someone to make an unfoldable 2 pair? Basically the only "unfoldable" hands here have already been made (ie. the trips or the straight.) A free card could really only hurt you here and I just don't see anyone making a great hand to pay you off.

Hand 2 was iffy. Flop bet is sensless, its small and suspectible to a raise and basically accomplishes nothing unless the whole table was real weak. Turn call is ok. The story with the river tells itself.

Hand 3 was fine. You came out swinging and he raised you small, you had chips to gamble with and a chance to knock someone out. I don't hate making a move here becuase he probably just has a pair and you've got outs to crack 'em.

Hand 4 was done well. No real tough decision. Laying down the pair would be weak and that's just not your style. Outside chance you're getting dominated, good chance its 50/50 to whack another player. Sound strategy.

Hand 5 was horrid. You have the best hand at the time. You can stand to gamble with it. There is a small chance he has an ace, but he probably doesn't. And even if he's sitting on the ace, he's got to hit it here. If you can't gamble with the best of it, when can you? Call the raise. And play the hand out in position. You shouldn't jump the gun here. Wasted a great hand.

Nothing really to critize beyond the last hand.

-'rilla

I spent my time goin through this dang thing, writing down my remarks.
Then just before posting them I read Gorilla’s post and said wait a minute now.
What I miss?
My remarks were more flattering than rillas.
And from what I have seen of rillas work in here, I’m generally more critical by comparison and I can usually identify on where he is coming from once he states it.
Therefore, I will error towards his judgment right now, cause it’s apparent he seen something I didn’t.
I don’t like being in that position!
No offense rilla.
lol

So for clarification purposes:
And if don’t mind.
I would like to ask a couple of questions.

This is advertised as a tourney in the heading, so going through this thing I kept expecting replacement players.
Then towards the end of it I was suspecting this was a “Sit N Go” table.
But most of these tourneys state that in their heading.
I didn’t see it.
Was this an invite tourney?

Were these players that you knew, familiar with, if it was an invite?
Or I should say, thought they knew you?
lol

What was the entry fee?

This is something I commented on from my original and intended post:
It was clearly evident the level of aggression in your style of play.
Yet it appears the other players didn’t pick this up and take advantage of that.
Do you know why?

How would you rate them players?

Thanx in advance

Quote:

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Hand 5 was horrid. You have the best hand at the time. You can stand to gamble with it. There is a small chance he has an ace, but he probably doesn't. And even if he's sitting on the ace, he's got to hit it here. If you can't gamble with the best of it, when can you? Call the raise. And play the hand out in position. You shouldn't jump the gun here. Wasted a great hand.

-'rilla

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LOL. Ironic that going all-in would be considered the tight play. You're right, I was kicking myself after he folded. The game could've ended on this hand, instead, it went on for about another 5 hands or so. Oh well, got away with it.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by TDM100

This is advertised as a tourney in the heading, so going through this thing I kept expecting replacement players.
Then towards the end of it I was suspecting this was a “Sit N Go” table.
But most of these tourneys state that in their heading.
I didn’t see it.
Was this an invite tourney?

Were these players that you knew, familiar with, if it was an invite?
Or I should say, thought they knew you?
lol

What was the entry fee?

This is something I commented on from my original and intended post:
It was clearly evident the level of aggression in your style of play.
Yet it appears the other players didn’t pick this up and take advantage of that.
Do you know why?

How would you rate them players?

Thanx in advance

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It was a single 20+2 table (nice and short, I have the attention span of a squirrel). The players were probably rather inexperienced, though I don't consider myself too experienced.

I didn't get involved in many hands. I didn't keep the stats, but I'd say I saw the flop about 35% of the time. Generally playing only face cards and, depending on position, suited connectors. The ones I did play, I did aggressively.

Hope this helps.

Love your stream-of-consciousness writing style, BTW.

Hand 1: I probably would have done the same.
You're more than likely safe from someone getting a boat due to pre-flop raise - so smaller check-raise on turn possible.

Hand 2: Again, I like the way you played this.
Small bet on flop worth it for info. Could have won the hand there and then.

Hand 3: This is the hand I've got a problem with (what have I missed?).
As much as I respect the big ape's opinion (I'm sure 'rilla's played better and longer than I), I would have raised the KJs pre-flop (400 or 500 in total).
At worst zakszaks goes all in pre-flop and you still lose, at best he folds and you win the blinds there and then.

With the flop missing your hand completly, calling his all in with nothing and no read (he's seen a free flop from BB) was a little strange IMO.

Why double him up?

Hand 4: Good strong play in a short handed game.
Having said that, I'm not sure I would have gone all in w/ 77. Kudos... :)

Hand 5: I'm with 'rilla on this.
Gamble a bit with great starting hand in short handed game.

All in all good play - just my tuppence worth.

Cheers.

You make a good point for hand 3 about raising preflop. Post flop, you should call becuase you've got outs to knock a player out of a tourny and I value that more than I do folding just becuase its a -EV call.

-'rilla