Unfortunate scenario !?

this just confused the heck out of me. Am I retarded to fold ?
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Hand #4143362-2768 at Barreiro (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 28/Jan/05 16:10:38

The Piper 24 is at seat 0 with $25.15.
rettr is at seat 1 with $24.50.
jwh185 is at seat 2 with $6.65.
b_rabbit is at seat 4 with $13.
liveatpjs is at seat 5 with $9.35.
LongTallDude is at seat 6 with $13.75.
I Like Ike is at seat 7 with $9.25.
wuolleguy is at seat 8 with $43.52.
XPlorador is at seat 9 with $23.75.
The button is at seat 2.

b_rabbit posts the small blind of $.10.
liveatpjs posts the big blind of $.25.

The Piper 24: -- --
rettr: -- --
jwh185: -- --
b_rabbit: -- --
liveatpjs: -- --
LongTallDude: -- --
I Like Ike: -- --
wuolleguy: Kc Js
XPlorador: -- --

Pre-flop:

LongTallDude folds. I Like Ike calls. wuolleguy
calls. XPlorador folds. The Piper 24 folds. rettr
calls. jwh185 calls. b_rabbit calls. liveatpjs
checks.

Flop (board: Ts 5s As):

b_rabbit checks. liveatpjs checks. I Like Ike bets
$.25. wuolleguy calls. rettr raises to $.50.
jwh185 folds. b_rabbit folds. liveatpjs folds. I
Like Ike calls. wuolleguy calls.

Turn (board: Ts 5s As Qd):

I Like Ike checks. wuolleguy checks. rettr bets
$.75. I Like Ike calls. wuolleguy calls.

River (board: Ts 5s As Qd 9s):

I Like Ike checks. wuolleguy checks. rettr bets
$5.25. I Like Ike folds. wuolleguy folds, showing
Kc Js. rettr is returned $5.25 (uncalled).



Hand #4143362-2768 Summary:

$.25 is raked from a pot of $5.25.
rettr wins $5.
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if you think he had the queen or the king of spades good fold.

Thats a really tough call. What was your read on him?

he was new to the table only a few rounds.. he was fairly loose thats the only thing i had, no weird plays or anything noted down yet..

should i have pushed (is that like all in or just a good solid bet !?) earlier or when i had the str8 Ace high ?

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Originally Posted by bspahn

should i have pushed (is that like all in or just a good solid bet !?) earlier or when i had the str8 Ace high ?

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No, not when there is a 3 flush on the board.

I quite like this play, you were very careful when the straight hit so that you could fold without a problem if the 4 flush did hit, executed perfectly.

turns out the guy basically bluffed at the end, but i had no read on him, so that to me is a waste of 5bucks even i do win with either the str8 or flush..

Reraise that big, $10-15, see where you're at and represent Ks or Qs yourself. He'll push if he's got it, fold if he has a crappy kicker or worse, and even then I have trouble laying down the 3rd nut flush, especially at these stakes.

Or you can raise big on the turn. You have Js backing you up against people with low kicker flushes and the nut straight backing you up against any aces or trips.

I wouldn't limp KJo preflop either at these stakes. To many callers fishing for a piece of the pie. Really here you're looking to see if your TPGK will hold up if you hit it on the flop, so you gotta raise it so you know callers have legit business calling and raisers aren't running low 2 pair.

Where you afraid of the completed flush on the turn, when you "only" had the straight?


I would raise big on the turn to find out if he's on something, maybe $5-10... If he reraises I would fold.

When you compleated your flush on the river I would have bet here too, maybe $3. He either folds or calls then. If he raised I would fold...

//Excalibur