quads or boat..

This type of play has already cost me a bit but I dont know how to get more information of my opponents hand. Should I have folded and if so, when? Share your thoughts..

Table High - Tide (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: starbuck1211 ( $72.55 )
Seat 4: menacehennes ( $90.2 )
Seat 6: xxBaggyxx ( $47.14 )
Seat 8: Filesharer ( $83.6 )
Seat 9: JPRsksr ( $47.85 )
Seat 10: SAND_TRAP ( $86.5 )
Seat 5: Me ( $59.1 )
Seat 2: Milwaukee69 ( $51.6 )
Seat 7: SynSid ( $50 )
Seat 3: filthyclean1 ( $49 )
Milwaukee69 posts small blind [$0.5].
filthyclean1 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ME [ As Jd ]
menacehennes folds.
ME raises [$3].
xxBaggyxx calls [$3].
Filesharer folds.
JPRsksr folds.
SAND_TRAP folds.
starbuck1211 folds.
Milwaukee69 folds.
filthyclean1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 6s, Ad ]
ME bets [$5].
xxBaggyxx calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
ME bets [$4].
xxBaggyxx calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
ME bets [$10].
xxBaggyxx is all-In [$35.14]
ME calls [$25.14].

ME shows [ As, Jd ] a full house, Sixes full of aces.
xxBaggyxx shows [ 6h, Ah ] four of a kind, sixes.
xxBaggyxx wins $92.78 from the main pot with four of a kind, sixes.

Any read on him?

He calls on the flop and turn, then goes all-in at the end. Hard to do, not sure I could either, but fold on the river.

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Originally Posted by ngericl

He calls on the flop and turn, then goes all-in at the end

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A lot of people are going to do that with any pair -- sometimes Ace high -- as long as they feel like you haven't got a 6

The only way to read a hand like this would be:
Based on PF action, you KNOW opp is playing little suited connectors. Calling your flop bet means he's got a 6 -- that's about all it could mean. Then you could conceivably quit at the second six.

That's insane. I'm not laying it down.

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Originally Posted by FlyingSaucy

That's insane. I'm not laying it down.

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It's a tough lay down, to be sure, and one I'm not likely to make either, but everything the guy did screamed he had a 6.

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Originally Posted by FlyingSaucy

That's insane. I'm not laying it down.

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Me neither. Just explaining the circumstances where somebody could lay it down.

There's another thread where Molinero was face with an AI holding kings. He said he knew -- for certain -- that opp had kings or aces. So it's a laydown. Clearly.

But he didn't. And opp had aces.

No, I know no one is advocating folding it. It's definitely a clear call.


Here's my modified version of the hand history that I would consider laying it down to a river AI. Note that it requires a lot of poor play to get yourself in the predicament that you would consider folding it.

Table High - Tide (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: starbuck1211 ( $72.55 )
Seat 4: menacehennes ( $90.2 )
Seat 6: xxBaggyxx ( $47.14 )
Seat 8: Filesharer ( $83.6 )
Seat 9: JPRsksr ( $47.85 )
Seat 10: SAND_TRAP ( $86.5 )
Seat 5: Me ( $59.1 )
Seat 2: Milwaukee69 ( $51.6 )
Seat 7: SynSid ( $50 )
Seat 3: filthyclean1 ( $49 )
Milwaukee69 posts small blind [$0.5].
filthyclean1 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ME [ As Jd ]
menacehennes folds.
ME calls [$1].
xxBaggyxx calls [$1].
Filesharer folds.
JPRsksr folds.
SAND_TRAP folds.
starbuck1211 folds.
Milwaukee69 folds.
filthyclean1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 6s, Ad ]
ME bets [$1].
xxBaggyxx folds.
filthyclean1 calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
ME bets [$2].
filthyclean1 raises [$4].
ME calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
ME bets [$10].
filthyclean1 is all-In [$35.14]