What are my chance for improving with this hand?

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03-14-2005, 01:12 AM
SmackinYaUp

What are my chance for improving with this hand?

***** Hand History for Game 1733236188 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Monday, March 14, 00:50:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 36967 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: fallsrounder ( $47.63 )
Seat 3: SlappYou ( $13.15 )
Seat 8: JARTON ( $12 )
Seat 6: manny324 ( $25 )
SlappYou posts small blind [$0.1].
fallsrounder posts big blind [$0.25].
manny324 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SlappYou [ 6d 7d ]
manny324 checks.
JARTON raises [$0.5].
SlappYou calls [$0.4].
fallsrounder calls [$0.25].
manny324 calls [$0.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 5d, 6c ]

And how many outs can you count?
I know these might not necessarily be the nuts, but I am curious anyways

Heres my attempt..trying not to recount any flush cards
Nine diamonds, three 4s, three 9s, three 7s, two 6s
20 outs?
03-14-2005, 01:16 AM
a500lbgorilla

Did you edit the preflop action?

You're a flip against higher paired hands and you've got an orgy of outs. Let's get our aggro on.

With no read. I could all outs to trips or better. If I can put him on a hand, you can react properly. You're diamonds are dead to a better draw, trips and two pair outs are dead against a set etc etc.

-'rilla
03-14-2005, 01:31 AM
SmackinYaUp

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Did you edit the preflop action?

You're a flip against higher paired hands and you've got an orgy of outs. Let's get our aggro on.

With no read. I could all outs to trips or better. If I can put him on a hand, you can react properly. You're diamonds are dead to a better draw, trips and two pair outs are dead against a set etc etc.

-'rilla

Wow that was a quick reply, thanks.
No, I didnt edit the preflop action. Why? If you got something against my playing a small suited connector against 3 players, then you are right. But still...

What are the % for improving with this hand?

I dont have the HH any more but all I did was bet the pot and get folds all around.
03-14-2005, 10:51 AM
a500lbgorilla

4 handed, I'm looking to dump it.

You'll end up with two pair 22% of the time, trips 4%, a straight 20%, a flush 28% and a straight flush 9%.

It probably would have been easier to say, you'll stay as one pair 15% of the time.

Against rockets, you're a 65/35 favorite.

-'rilla
03-14-2005, 11:22 AM
Sykedupp

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

4 handed, I'm looking to dump it.

You'll end up with two pair 22% of the time, trips 4%, a straight 20%, a flush 28% and a straight flush 9%.

It probably would have been easier to say, you'll stay as one pair 15% of the time.

Against rockets, you're a 65/35 favorite.

-'rilla

Just to clarify, those are the odds after the flop, not preflop...

-Chris
03-14-2005, 03:42 PM
mimmons775

i wouldnt really count the 7 as an out because even if the 7 hits theres a very good chance that someone has the 9 or even the 4 to make the straight.[/quote]
03-14-2005, 03:43 PM
thestrokes

Quote:

Originally Posted by mimmons775

i wouldnt really count the 7 as an out because even if the 7 hits theres a very good chance that someone has the 9 or even the 4 to make the straight.

[/quote]

Not if you are playing agianst decent players and you bet the flop.
03-14-2005, 04:08 PM
mimmons775

your rarely ever playing against good players online and will alwyas get called by fish who have a gutshot or if someone has 99, 44, or even 89 suited your 7 will be no good.
03-14-2005, 05:37 PM
SmackinYaUp

Oh that table was definitely not decent. Not only did I suspect busted straight draws half the time, but they called river bets with them! No, they didnt bet...they called. I have some new buddies.

But hey rilla, could you explain to me how I am such a favorite against rockets? I was only able to count 20 outs. 20 outs vs 47 unseen cards would be 43% right? Where have I gone wrong here?