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Type: Posts; User: ATOTHEC101
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Oh dear, I don't even know where to start. I had no idea you would take my words so personally and feel the need to open a thread on ftr in defense. I had a long winded post readied that took me far...
Yea not folding once I overbet.
He has dem queens, folding.
Yea don't fold.
Would 3 bet flop, as played look's fine.
Didn't listen to my coaching advice, tsk tsk ;)
Fold.
At first I thought this was a bluff vs 1010/jj, then you said you're trying to get him to fold j10...
Jamming
1's a b/f, he has to be retardo jamming worse ax on this turn for calling to be profitable, which is fairly unlikely.
2 is a snap.
1) I just don't see that many 8x in his range, most regs with highish fold to 3 bets don't defend stuff like 78s or a8s in this spot, and if they did they definitely wouldn't be folding this turn and...
Raise flop, probs fold river, and calling>>>jamming imo. There is def more of a flat nutted hands for deception dynamic on ftp but the vast majority of people will never give you credit here with a f...
Like the flop lead and the river jam due to how few flush combos he can have and the fact players like the one you described love to fold.
It's actually the opposite, regs are still never folding any pair on this particular turn, nor any rando straight draws, as they feel jx rarely hits you, and that your db range is really polarised to...
This is obviously really villain dependent but by the description you give he sounds v solid and not too out of line. Imo betting turn is horrible as 1. you're gonna get hardly any folds, and 2...
lead or C/C the flop, don't like c/r due to board texture.
Whole hand is fine if you snap river, he bets all potential boats/straights on the turn and usually checks back all his qx on the flop.
Would have to pry dem rocket's from my cold dead fingers
This looks kind of bluffy specifically due to the dynamic you two have. I'd call with whatever I bet for value, I think kq is too thin so ax +
jamming river is really bad.
I'm also assuming this is against tim0, he's really not the type to ever hero you with 9x.
c/f river.
Probably not as your line looks a bit fos and once he checks flop I feel he has decent sd value nearly every time so he's folding the turn close to never, once you bet turn and get this nutted river...
Just fold
I wouldn't do this vs an unknown, I'd at least like some idea of his btn 3 betting frequencies. Once called I'd just c/f this particular flop.