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    Default $200NL, a few crappy spots

    Hand 1:
    -button is 22/20 over only 20 hands, so no real reads
    -BB is 25/12/1 over 200 hands, and I haven't seen him cold call a raise before
    -This is a brutal flop for aces, but I figured I would check and see the action behind me. I could probably fold here to a strong bet and a raise, but not sure what to do facing JUST a bet?

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    Stack sizes:
    Button: $247
    Hero: $358.50
    BB: $200

    Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with
    Button raises to $8, Hero raises to $24, BB calls, Button calls.

    Flop: ($72, 3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $52, Button folds, Hero ??


    Hand 2:
    -no reads on villain, he got to the table not long ago. He lead into the PF raiser on the flop, but I have no idea what that means from him
    -is this a standard push call, but fold with reads. Or is this a standard fold, and call with reads?

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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $193
    CO: $228.75
    Button: $366
    SB: $391.75
    Hero: $341.26

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with
    UTG folds, CO calls, Button raises to $8, SB folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

    Flop: ($25, 3 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $20, Button folds, Hero calls.

    Turn: ($65, 2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $30, Hero raises to $70, CO raises all-in $200.75, Hero ??
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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    first one I turbo muck and second one I fold pre w/ no reads, looks like an obv flopped set to me, but obv i call cuz ima station
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triptanes
    first one I turbo muck and second one I fold pre w/ no reads, looks like an obv flopped set to me, but obv i call cuz ima station
    First hand is it dumb to check, to see the action behind? Should I just be leading, and folding to a raise?.. I'm kinda stuck now, facing only one bet on this board.

    I guess the only hands I'm beating in a reasonable range are AK and 1010, and I doubt 1010 is betting there. So I guess its just AK.
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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    yeah cold call should make you worried, I had a guy with similar stats call that with KK in this spot, so i c/f hur
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    1) You are often behind here, especially against a guy this passive I fold it easily.

    2) Edit: pf is debatable but its fine against a guy that isolates a lot, so its okay (so is raising). Since he limped he can have a boat here obviously, but so is trip 8's or a smaller flush. Tough spot, I call though. Folding is fine too.
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    1) lol folding. i dont fold the flop here ever- question is whether to bet or check. checking is fine i think, just call and fold to a shove on turn usually.

    2) WTF you guys realize we have a FLUSH!!! and its the pfr and he never flops sets ever. and its only 2s and 3s we are worried about jesus christ. id call a shove happily. PF is a fold tho. I also usually lead flop intending to 3bet here and if i dont lead flop i definitely cr flop and call shove.

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    1) if you check the flop you have to call his bet. AK is a big part of his range and you have 6 outs to improve+ backdoor flush.
    2) easy call, looks like QQ-AA type of a hand.
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    re-read hand 2 i made the same mistake
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    re-read hand 2 i made the same mistake
    ok that changes things and taking in consideration the deep stacks it is indeed a tough spot, but hero is getting pretty good price here and depending on the player he could play a lower flush like this.

    EDIT: CO was not deep I really need to practice reading hand histories...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    1) lol folding. i dont fold the flop here ever- question is whether to bet or check. checking is fine i think, just call and fold to a shove on turn usually.

    2) WTF you guys realize we have a FLUSH!!! and its the pfr and he never flops sets ever. and its only 2s and 3s we are worried about jesus christ. id call a shove happily. PF is a fold tho. I also usually lead flop intending to 3bet here and if i dont lead flop i definitely cr flop and call shove.

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    Hand 2 is not the pfr
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    yea good point- i donno i still dont think i fold vs typical opponents but it wouldnt be terrible
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum

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