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  1. #1

    Default $500NL, c/r'd on river

    -no real reads on villain, only had like 34 hands on him and he was running 38/32/4, not that its enough hands anyhow
    -turn check through since I figured he could only check call the flop with an A really
    -river, tried somewhat overbetting to rep a steal, wasn't expecting to get pushed over
    -I can't fold this river, can I??

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $2/$5
    5 players
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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $1139.21
    CO: $1617.25
    Hero: $665.80
    SB: $485.30
    BB: $841.15

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with
    UTG raises to $20, CO folds, Hero raises to $60, 2 folds, UTG calls.

    Flop: ($127, 2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $72, UTG calls.

    Turn: ($271, 2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks.

    River: ($271, 2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $170, UTG raises all-in $1007.21, Hero ??
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  2. #2
    Definitely don't think you can fold this river.

    Mainly because I don't think he ever puts you in a 2 here.

    The only hand that makes any sense that beats you here is KQcc, and I think that's a pretty small part of his range.

    On a side note, is it true the volume at Crypto is shrinking? I own stock but don't play there. Do you think the player base has any shot of increasing? Are their promotions and such good?
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry
    Definitely don't think you can fold this river.

    Mainly because I don't think he ever puts you in a 2 here.

    The only hand that makes any sense that beats you here is KQcc, and I think that's a pretty small part of his range.

    On a side note, is it true the volume at Crypto is shrinking? I own stock but don't play there. Do you think the player base has any shot of increasing? Are their promotions and such good?
    I haven't really noticed the volume shrinking at Crypto, though I also haven't noticed it getting bigger either. I think it depends when you play. I probably play at non-peak euro hours, so that doesn't help table selection too much.

    As for bonuses, however. Yah they have a pretty good bonuses on inter, with big monthly deposit bonuses up to $1000 a month. Also their rakeback is based on number of hands, so the more you play, the higher the rakeback.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  4. #4
    I've been playing crypto almost exclusively since October of last year. Since their WSOP promos ended, I've noticed a slight dip in traffic (I play mainly during the day North American time, so Euro peak time) especially in the full ring games.

    There's a lot of shorthanded action still, but full ring PL Omaha has almost competely died out at 100PLO and up.
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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    This looks an absolute classic opportunity for a lagg to take advantage of a scare card vs an OOP pf raiser who may or may not have top pair but already appears to have played scared in the hand. I think it's an easy call.
  6. #6
    Don't like the 3-bet pre-flop. Gotta call this river.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by zook
    Don't like the 3-bet pre-flop. Gotta call this river.
    My 3-bet preflop was related to my other post tht I made. Where everytime I flat called low pairs I was getting squeezed out. Also, he was running 38/32, I didn't think his range was tight enough to just play pairs for set value.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  8. #8
    ughhh unfortunately we have to call but i expect to lose a good amount.
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  9. #9
    I have to call here. I expect to be good a fair amount of time. All too often he is check raising what appears to be an obvious valuebet/bluff from a high card hand that cannot call a push. I like a call and if has you beat consider it a cooler. No way he sees you with a 2.
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp
    I have to call here. I expect to be good a fair amount of time. All too often he is check raising what appears to be an obvious valuebet/bluff from a high card hand that cannot call a push. I like a call and if has you beat consider it a cooler. No way he sees you with a 2.
    Ok this is kind of what I figured. I didn't really think he could possibly see me with a 2, so I was wondering what worse hands would play this way. I wasn't sure if a set/two pair might play like this.

    But I called, and he had KT of clubs. But good to know that I'll prob be ahead here more often than not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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