[50NL]NFD multiway

UTG is 29/8 63%cbet, MP is running 43/16 w/8% flop raise & 42% flop afq, both over a small sample. no real reads.


UTG: $50.00
MP: $25.00
Hero (CO): $48.50
BTN: $8.83
SB: $40.40
BB: $53.95

UTG posts a big blind ($0.50)

Pre Flop: ($1.25) Hero is CO with T A
UTG raises to $2.50, MP calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, BTN calls $2.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($10.75) 8 3 4 (4 players)
UTG bets $4.50, MP raises to $22.50 all in, Hero...

okay, so we pretty much got the flop we wanted. MP's range includes sets, overpairs, the occasional FDs which we have 40-45% equity against. If I shove I may have enough fold equity against UTG, and imo there's enough dead money to warrant such an action anyway. super standard ship here amirite?

tricky spot

id ship and expect UTG to make an incorrect fold and there is def enough money in the pot already to get it in vs some random spazztards range (though keep in mind I didn't actually stove anything lol)

if utg was rly loose id rather just flat here and hope he shoves/peels with a worse FD. Now that its a nit I'd just shove, these guys love to fold made hands here putting one of you guys on a set.

You usually need to hit to win the pot here vs MP, so surely you'd want UTG in as well? i think calling is best here

if both UTG and I flat the flop raise, do we put the rest in if UTG shoves a blank turn?

I think I answered my own question:

Board: 8d 3d 4h 6c

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 73.977% 73.98% 00.00% 1302 0.00 { 88+, 44-33, KdQd }
Hand 1: 26.023% 26.02% 00.00% 458 0.00 { AdTd }

I need only about 20% equity to make the call +EV so I guess that's that.