1/2 - 3bet pot, turn decision

i dont get it. if i were villain and you bet 40$, I wouldnt shove with any hand. why are you so worried about getting jammed on. Sure, if you want to bet huge to force out all worse hands just so you know you have the artificial odds to call an all in, then youve solved that problem, but really all youve done is isolate the strongest part of his range because youre scared to get outplayed. If youre so worried that you can't put all your chips in with top pair and the nut flush draw in an already big pot, then ffs you need to be bluffing more. I wouldn't even consider b/f this hand vs any opponent on the turn.

Originally Posted by nutsinho

why are you so worried about getting jammed on.

b/c I bet/called $50 and lost. obv too results-oriented, thx everyone.

Originally Posted by nutsinho

i dont get it. if i were villain and you bet 40$, I wouldnt shove with any hand. why are you so worried about getting jammed on. Sure, if you want to bet huge to force out all worse hands just so you know you have the artificial odds to call an all in, then youve solved that problem, but really all youve done is isolate the strongest part of his range because youre scared to get outplayed. If youre so worried that you can't put all your chips in with top pair and the nut flush draw in an already big pot, then ffs you need to be bluffing more. I wouldn't even consider b/f this hand vs any opponent on the turn.

would you ever check the turn in zook's position? do we have to bet that turn with everything? why/why not?

Long long long time lurker here.

I like a check/shove on the turn. If he checks behind try for thin river value.

I can't find a hand that he calls the turn with except diamonds, AQ, AK? Hes folding his most likely holding of a pp. I like giving him a chance to catch up or bluff.

Heck maybe c/c, you are so far ahead here usually.

But i have been wrong before.. often.

Originally Posted by Neil MacPhee

Long long long time lurker here.

I like a check/shove on the turn. If he checks behind try for thin river value.

Welcome to FTR!

What would you do with KJ here? With 9Tdd? With 56ss?

This is too good of a bluffing spot to not be betting when we actually hit it here. If you're only checking when you have it, people will notice that very quickly.

If you're shutting down all hands, I suppose thats a different story.

Most people are double barrel bluffing here.

[QUOTE=griffey24;1944430]Welcome to FTR!

What would you do with KJ here? With 9Tdd? With 56ss?

This is too good of a bluffing spot to not be betting when we actually hit it here. If you're only checking when you have it, people will notice that very quickly.


Thanks for the welcome. This is a very nice site, with some good people here.

I was thinking less metagame and more in a vacuum. Looking at this hand alone i want to win as much as possible, and i think the check allows him to bluff turn or pay off river.

Your point is well taken though, this is a primo double barrel bluff spot, but at this level i don't worry much about cultivating long term images.

Thanks again for the welcome.

Hey can i change my user name i wanted to be a little more anonymous and i didnt realize i selected my real name as my user name? LOL.