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1/2 c/r flop bluff bottom pair?(45s)

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    Default 1/2 c/r flop bluff bottom pair?(45s)

    This game is just starting we've played one orbit nothing at all happened. I have no reads and I assume he doesn't either. I know he's a reg but I'm not sure if he realizes I'm a reg shot taking but he could.

    Elect to call pre instead of 3b because of his sizing. I would probably be more inclined to 3b hands like 46s/47s etc.

    I c/r flop with the intention of barreling any 2/3/4/5/7/J/Q/K/A/diamond/spade(villain is probably 3bing NFDs on the flop or Txss or spade combo draws) then the board runs out the way it does and I fire 3. Is this okay or most regs at 200s silly enough to call down here w/ no history at all.

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    3 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    BTN babao.yes ($203)
    SB shermanash ($200)
    BB Hero ($224.50)

    Pre-Flop: ($3, 3 players) Hero is BB
    babao.yes raises to $5, shermanash folds, Hero calls $3

    Flop: ($11, 2 players)
    Hero checks, babao.yes bets $7.50, Hero raises to $24, babao.yes calls $16.50

    Turn: ($59, 2 players)
    Hero bets $44, babao.yes calls $44

    River: ($147, 2 players)
    Hero goes all-in $151.50
    Last edited by Icanhastreebet; 06-17-2010 at 03:21 PM. Reason: Close parenthesis
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    I'd 3 bet or fold preflop, don't like flatting here readless even vs this sizing.

    I'd bet river less like 104 since you're trying to fold out a weakass range mainly Tx that aint gonna hero call for 2/3rds potish.
    Last edited by Carroters; 06-17-2010 at 10:00 AM.
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    Nevermind
    Last edited by Icanhastreebet; 06-17-2010 at 10:20 AM. Reason: Ty
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    Instead of electing to call I would just call and cut the level of douchebaggery by 500%.

    If that's not his standard steal pre I don't think you have much fold equity, so I like call.
    I'm kind of meh towards all options. Don't think this is terrible. I would prolly just c/f tho because playing that hand oop is gay.
    Last edited by oskar; 06-17-2010 at 04:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    I'd 3 bet or fold preflop, don't like flatting here readless even vs this sizing.

    I'd bet river less like 104 since you're trying to fold out a weakass range mainly Tx that aint gonna hero call for 2/3rds potish.
    seems like below 200nl everyone just assumes big bets are bluffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnord View Post
    what are you representing?

    tt, 66, 44, kj

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    I had a spot similar to this where I shoved the river expecting a fold a decent amount but forgot that regs and fish alike talk themselves into calling almost anything if a flush draw misses.
  9. #9
    You're repping such a thin value range with the way the board ran off, that you don't need to be bluffing very often at all here for it to be correct for villain to call you "light" which i'm guessing he did because of the silly comment.
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    he folded fwiw
  11. #11
    this is typically bad

    c/c flop seems better to me, if you c/r give up on that turn mostly
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123 View Post
    this is typically bad

    c/c flop seems better to me, if you c/r give up on that turn mostly
    what cards do you barrel after c/ring then? A/3/4/5/6/diamond?
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    if you flopped a set here and are trying to get value from say Tx hands such as AT etc maybe sometimes he'll have QQ or somethin.... are you really overbet shoving this river for value or are you gonna try and get him to call out of curiousity with like a $55 bet on the river?

    The J turn is super unlikely to help you unless you specifically have say AJ/KJ/QJss type hands and you're probably not shoving any of those on the river...

    i think A/3/4/5/6/diamond seem more appropriate to barrel due to the added equity, that said OTHER than the Ace if he called you on the flop he's gonna call you on the turn too since the board hasnt REALLY changed.

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