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1/2 - playing AA passively after 3betting vs. 2 regs

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  1. #1

    Default 1/2 - playing AA passively after 3betting vs. 2 regs

    Both opps are winning regs. Button is one of the better players at these stakes and I've played with him at 2/4 as well. He runs 24/20/4.5, raising 50% of buttons, folds to 3bets 70%. We don't have a ton of history but he knows I 3bet light and I've 5bet him light before as well. He might think I'm spewy. BB is not as good, but pretty solid abc player, running 20/16/3.4.

    I think my thought process is pretty obvious here, just wondering if it's any good.

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    saw flop

    Hero (SB) ($200)
    BB ($200)
    UTG ($448)
    MP ($205.35)
    CO ($172.30)
    Button ($319.20)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
    3 folds, Button bets $6, Hero raises to $22, BB calls $20, Button calls $16

    Flop: ($66) 4, 10, 3 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks

    Turn: ($66) 10 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $34, Button raises to $100, Hero raises to $178 (All-In)
  2. #2
    I despise your flop check here
  3. #3
    yeah i would bet the flop.. i assume your reasoning is that BB often has 99+ which will stab at this flop once you check?
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    yeah i don't get why if we're 3betting light why we check here?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    I despise your flop check here
    Agreed.

    I'd also bet turn as played.

    Whether to shove or fold the turn is marginal as played, but I'd probably play the same.
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    I despise your flop check here
    Agreed.

    I'd also bet turn as played.
    I think I might even fold to this turn action.
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  7. #7
    My reasoning for a flop check is that I think opps 4bet JJ+ almost all the time, so I'm mostly getting value from T's and flush draws. And I'm not that worried about giving a free card b/c I think they'll bet T's a fair amount and I have the Ac.

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  8. #8

    Default Re: 1/2 - playing AA passively after 3betting vs. 2 regs

    Quote Originally Posted by zook
    BB is not as good, but pretty solid abc player, running 20/16/3.4.
    I think this is JJ/QQ type a lot from BB, and I don't think he's folding if you bet flop anyhow.
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  9. #9
    BTN is pretty likely to have a Ten here so I'd fold...

    Given the action I think he's much more likely to call a flop cbet with Tx than he is of betting it.

    Idk I just think not cbetting the flop is fps, you say they won't have a strong range very often because they'd 4bet pre, but that means you're not gonna get action either way so might as well just cbet and hope they do something dumb.
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  10. #10
    bb has 99-qq, when button raises it really sucks as he can def check the flop back with a 10, I probs cry fold though I'm unsure. Also def bet flop considering when vils cold call a 3 bet I always find it's those sort of hands, and on this flop he won't fold to a c bet.
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  11. #11
    Won't they call their T's a fair amount on the flop as well (obviously their not folding the flop if they have a ten)? Your pretty much allowing people with worse hands to play perfectly against your hand, which is to check.
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  12. #12
    doesn t seem great to me. admittedly, that s a pretty brutal turn card so it ends up looking about as bad as it can...

    i d like it much more if we were playing vs EP opens and villains were more likely to have 88-QQ hands that might bet-call on this board putting you on AK or clubs after you check flop.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  13. #13
    I think you should fold on turn.T is playable card and there is two T on the board.I think that BB has pocket pair or AK and button maybe has T.BB didn't have to put money in the pot.Because of that I think he has strong starting hand.Button calls preflop because of money on the table.He can call with TK TJ etc.You should push on the flop but when second T appears on turn you should fold.AA is very strong preflop but on turn with two opponents and that board you should fold.That was risky all in.
  14. #14
    Against good players this line would be bad.

    But I seriously take this same line all the time at 200nl and it crushes their souls. A+
  15. #15
    OH LOL I misread the turn didn't see it paired the ten. FOOLLLLDDD!

    FWIW, I'd probly lead out on that turn card since now pairs 9s and smaller will have an easier time calling you.
  16. #16
    I think given the dynamics of the hand players involved your history etc. Seems like a great flop to lead. Might make you look like a spewtard. But heres the question, whats our bet sizing?
  17. #17
    eff all y'all, I pwnt this hand

    Turn: ($66) 10 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $34, Button raises to $100, Hero raises to $178 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls $78

    River: ($456) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $456 | Rake: $3

    Results:
    Button had A, J (one pair, tens).
    Hero had A, A (two pair, Aces and tens).
    Outcome: Hero won $453

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  18. #18
    optimal
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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