10 hands to pass the time

no one posts in this forum and im bored

i have terrible image in all of these

1 villian is TAG who just made a commend about how bad this table sucks (as in, everyone was good except the idiot short stack)

POKERSTARS GAME #9038279105: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/22 - 20:29:27 (ET)
Table 'Paulina V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: gp333 ($3272 in chips)
Seat 3: purplEUROS ($2177 in chips)
Seat 4: buck21 ($2394 in chips)
Seat 5: CrAbLaR ($4830.30 in chips)
Seat 6: tmoneyy ($227.50 in chips)
gp333: posts small blind $10
purplEUROS: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [Jd 7d]
buck21: raises $60 to $80
CrAbLaR: folds
tmoneyy: folds
gp333: calls $70
purplEUROS: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Qd 7c]
gp333: bets $140
buck21: calls $140
*** TURN *** [5d Qd 7c] [2s]
gp333: bets $300
buck21: calls $300
*** RIVER *** [5d Qd 7c 2s] [Js]
gp333: bets $2752 and is all-in

2
villian is drunk regular

POKERSTARS GAME #9039205420: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/22 - 21:24:54 (ET)
Table 'Fiducia' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: straate ($2261 in chips)
Seat 3: xorbie ($1940 in chips)
Seat 4: Mizuno MX20 ($806 in chips)
Seat 5: purplEUROS ($4204 in chips)
Seat 6: gp333 ($6972 in chips)
xorbie: posts small blind $10
Mizuno MX20: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [6c Qc]
purplEUROS: folds
gp333: raises $40 to $60
straate: raises $40 to $100
xorbie: folds
Mizuno MX20: folds
gp333: calls $40
*** FLOP *** [Qs 9s 4d]
gp333: bets $180
straate: calls $180
*** TURN *** [Qs 9s 4d] [Jh]
gp333: bets $400
straate: raises $1581 to $1981 and is all-in
gp333: calls $1581

3
tightish reg player. i tried to trick him

POKERSTARS GAME #9020284077: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/21 - 18:47:30 (ET)
Table 'Laertes V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: leukspel ($1970 in chips)
Seat 2: sweetluvin7 ($5143.50 in chips)
Seat 3: CrAbLaR ($1918 in chips)
Seat 4: NMcNasty ($2000 in chips)
Seat 5: gp333 ($2955.50 in chips)
sweetluvin7: posts small blind $10
CrAbLaR: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [Th Td]
NMcNasty: raises $60 to $80
gp333: raises $160 to $240
leukspel: folds
sweetluvin7: folds
CrAbLaR: folds
NMcNasty: calls $160
*** FLOP *** [6s 3d 7d]
NMcNasty: checks
gp333: checks
*** TURN *** [6s 3d 7d] [3h]
NMcNasty: checks
gp333: bets $420
NMcNasty: raises $680 to $1100
gp333: raises $1615.50 to $2715.50 and is all-in

4
just some TAG that kept checking

POKERSTARS GAME #9024917592: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/21 - 23:29:54 (ET)
Table 'Galahad II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: CrAbLaR ($8388 in chips)
Seat 3: gp333 ($2376 in chips)
Seat 4: Rambo5 ($2001 in chips)
Seat 5: sweetluvin7 ($4892 in chips)
Seat 6: muchbetter ($2000 in chips)
sweetluvin7: posts small blind $10
muchbetter: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [Ts 8d]
CrAbLaR: folds
gp333: raises $40 to $60
CrAbLaR leaves the table
Rambo5: folds
sweetluvin7: calls $50
muchbetter: raises $180 to $240
gp333: calls $180
sweetluvin7: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Kd 3c]
muchbetter: checks
gp333: bets $300
muchbetter: calls $300
*** TURN *** [5d Kd 3c] [Js]
muchbetter: checks
gp333: bets $620
muchbetter: calls $620
*** RIVER *** [5d Kd 3c Js] [9s]
muchbetter: checks
gp333: bets $1216 and is all-in

5
this guy kept raising everything i did (ive seen him around before and hes more LAG than most). i didnt think he had a queen, hopefully JT or KJ or something.

POKERSTARS GAME #9024744427: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/21 - 23:18:47 (ET)
Table 'Arethusa V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: CrAbLaR ($5794 in chips)
Seat 2: Rambo5 ($7341.40 in chips)
Seat 3: vovka19 ($2000 in chips)
Seat 4: gp333 ($2430 in chips)
Seat 5: Luckyretard ($696.05 in chips)
Rambo5: posts small blind $10
vovka19: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [Ah 5h]
gp333: raises $40 to $60
Luckyretard: folds
CrAbLaR: folds
Rambo5: calls $50
vovka19: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h Qc Qd]
Rambo5: checks
gp333: bets $80
Rambo5: raises $240 to $320
gp333: calls $240
*** TURN *** [9h Qc Qd] [9c]
Rambo5: bets $580
gp333: calls $580
*** RIVER *** [9h Qc Qd 9c] [4d]
Rambo5: checks
gp333: bets $1470 and is all-in

6
standard

POKERSTARS GAME #9021369301: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/21 - 19:59:13 (ET)
Table 'Nenetta IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: sweetluvin7 ($5128 in chips)
Seat 2: gp333 ($3216 in chips)
Seat 3: NMcNasty ($8378.50 in chips)
Seat 5: leukspel ($3444 in chips)
Seat 6: Rambo5 ($6750 in chips)
sweetluvin7: posts small blind $10
gp333: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [Qs 7s]
NMcNasty: raises $60 to $80
leukspel: folds
Rambo5: folds
sweetluvin7: calls $70
gp333: calls $60
*** FLOP *** [9s Ks 4h]
sweetluvin7: checks
gp333: bets $200
NMcNasty: raises $500 to $700
sweetluvin7: folds
gp333: raises $2436 to $3136 and is all-in

7
if you are going to float one of the regs, follow through, i guess

POKERSTARS GAME #9015872802: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/21 - 14:02:54 (ET)
Table 'Neptune V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: BackDoorovic ($1970 in chips)
Seat 2: twin-caracas ($1970 in chips)
Seat 3: NMcNasty ($2010 in chips)
Seat 4: Rambo5 ($2688 in chips)
Seat 5: purplEUROS ($4914 in chips)
Seat 6: gp333 ($3253 in chips)
NMcNasty: posts small blind $10
Rambo5: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [7h 8h]
purplEUROS: raises $60 to $80
gp333: calls $80
BackDoorovic: folds
twin-caracas: folds
NMcNasty: folds
Rambo5: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Jd 5c]
purplEUROS: bets $155
gp333: calls $155
*** TURN *** [9s Jd 5c] [Kd]
purplEUROS: checks
gp333: bets $460
purplEUROS: calls $460
*** RIVER *** [9s Jd 5c Kd] [8s]
purplEUROS: checks
gp333: bets $2558 and is all-in

8
everyone sees me play my bare flush draws like this. classic supersystem stuff (ty doyle)

POKERSTARS GAME #9003543488: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/20 - 18:37:25 (ET)
Table 'Lesya II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: schnizeltoe ($2022 in chips)
Seat 2: NMcNasty ($4153 in chips)
Seat 3: gp333 ($3354.05 in chips)
Seat 5: kerpowski ($2504 in chips)
Seat 6: sweetluvin7 ($13349.65 in chips)
NMcNasty: posts small blind $10
gp333: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [Ts Jc]
kerpowski: raises $20 to $40
sweetluvin7: folds
schnizeltoe: folds
NMcNasty: folds
gp333: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [Jh Tc 6c]
gp333: bets $65
kerpowski: raises $235 to $300
gp333: raises $3014.05 to $3314.05 and is all-in

9
oh yea

POKERSTARS GAME #9008933227: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/20 - 23:59:24 (ET)
Table 'Padua IV' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: groinal ($2029 in chips)
Seat 3: BadcardsAA ($740 in chips)
Seat 4: edoiler ($1770 in chips)
Seat 5: The-Toilet 0 ($2000 in chips)
Seat 6: gp333 ($2139 in chips)
gp333: posts small blind $10
groinal: posts big blind $20
tjbentham: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [7s 2s]
BadcardsAA said, "bad day"
BadcardsAA: folds
edoiler: folds
The-Toilet 0: folds
gp333: raises $40 to $60
groinal: calls $40
*** FLOP *** [8c As 9s]
gp333: bets $80
groinal: raises $260 to $340
gp333: raises $1739 to $2079 and is all-in

10
i have a flush!!
POKERSTARS GAME #9003943959: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/03/20 - 19:01:59 (ET)
Table 'Nicolaia II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: gp333 ($3223 in chips)
Seat 3: kerpowski ($4978.95 in chips)
Seat 4: Tepper.dk ($846.10 in chips)
kerpowski: posts small blind $10
Tepper.dk: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [9d 4d]
gp333: raises $35 to $55
kerpowski: raises $175 to $230
Tepper.dk: folds
gp333: calls $175
*** FLOP *** [8c 5s 7s]
kerpowski: bets $350
gp333: calls $350
*** TURN *** [8c 5s 7s] [Qh]
kerpowski: checks
gp333: checks
*** RIVER *** [8c 5s 7s Qh] [As]
kerpowski: bets $750
gp333: raises $1893 to $2643 and is all-in

I'm just going to post my opinions for fun.
Hand 1: I like it, I actually just did this recently as a bluff.
Hand 2: Looks good to me, I think way to many draws/air are in his range
Hand 3: This one I don't like. Opp's made a bet that makes no sense, which makes me think he actually has the goods. I don't think there's any reason for him to not think you have an overpair here.
Hand 4: Wouldn't a good opp never call the flop and turn here intending to fold the river?
Hand 5: I think he is folding TT,JJ,KK, and AA so yeah nh.
Hand 6: What are your reads? I mean this is probably good
Hand 7: PurplEUROS is a 3/6 guy right? Meh I think he's going to call you down. He doesn't look that strong which is going to make him find it weird you're pushing. He probably looks you up.
Hand 8: looks good
Hand 9: I really like it, he's probably reraising pre any hands that he'd call with here.
Hand 10: I mean fold pre? as played i guess you want him to put you on A6? Is it so unreasonable he has an A here?

on #10, i fully expect him to have an Ace and fold it. hes a good regular, i push over his big riv bet when the flush card fits. its an example of where you shouldnt be trying to make big folds against tricky players (like if he folded AA here because he knew i wouldnt do this withouth the flush thats terrible)

wow wtf he folded AA!

i mean, whats the difference between AQ and AA here?

Originally Posted by gabe

i mean, whats the difference between AQ and AA here?

Nothing, he should call with both of them, no?

Hands 1-9 just look like someone who's amazing at poker being amazing at poker.

10 is the one that interests me the most.. You say he's a good reg, therefore surely he could tell that you wouldn't play the flush like that? If he's a reg he's prolly seen you push flushdraws on the flop quite a few times before, what makes him think you'd suddenly change it up and play a flush in a totally ABC (seemingly non-deceptive) way? Is this nth level thinking?

Do you ever call-call-push with sets?

I apologise if I shouldn't be posting in HSNL but high stakes hands are brilliantly interesting! If I should just lurk and stfu here tell me.

Originally Posted by Ash256

I apologise if I shouldn't be posting in HSNL but high stakes hands are brilliantly interesting! If I should just lurk and stfu here tell me.

its one thing to be posting in high stakes and giving advice (those get annoying) but post like yours are welcome.

the villian has seen me push flushdraws in reraised pots on the flop i'm sure, but that doesn't mean i always do it. the main thing is im working on vs tighter regulars is making bluffs that people would never think are bluffs, so they find lots of reasons to fold.

Originally Posted by Ash256

Hands 1-9 just look like someone who's amazing at poker being amazing at poker.

Originally Posted by gabe

its one thing to be posting in high stakes and giving advice (those get annoying) but post like yours are welcome.

you know what i meant

Could you talk about Hand 4 some more. If a medium stakes player did this I would put him squarely on QQ and I would expect him to call me down most of the time almost no matter what the turn and river are. That's probably not true at 10/20 though, because you both know that each other don't suck. Do you think that turn and river made him more likely to fold QQ?

Ash, if he didn't want smaller stakes players to ask questions about how he played the hands he wouldn't have posted them here.

the crappy part about this is that there aren't enough posters on FTR qualified to appropriately comment in this thread (i'm def not one of them) because these hands are all pretty damn interesting. I (and im sure lots of others) appreciate you letting us have a look inside the higher stakes.

fwiw, 1-3-5-8 are the hands I liked the most. Results will be awesome to see (even if you ran bad in all the hands )

My brain just went south for summer Nice hands.

Originally Posted by Ravageur

I (and im sure lots of others) appreciate you letting us have a look inside the higher stakes.

These are awesome to look at, and I too appreciate gabe posting these. But I doubt that sine of these are plays that gabe makes on a regular basis. It's gotta be right read, right spot, right time. If he made these all the time he'd be the "fish" at the table and would be broke right now.

It seems like everyone looks at this post and goes "OMG I COULD NEVER DO THAT PLAYING POKER." Maybe I'm wrong with that statement, but who knows.

Gabe this is great, though, you should do this more often. I too wish I could chime in but you're throwing around my entire BR on some of these pots, so I don't think it'd mean much.


Also, one more thought. I know this is 10 hands out of many many hands, but I think these plays would work out for the good a higher percentage of the time at higher stakes, rather than at NL200 (and hell maybe even NL400 or NL600) and below.

Reasons? One, you're playing against players that are thinking at much higher levels *most* of the time.....and two, the money you're playing with is a lot bigger.

guesses on which ones worked?

by worked i mean the money got in when i had the best of it

all of them or none of them

Originally Posted by gabe

guesses on which ones worked?

by worked i mean the money got in when i had the best of it

well quite a few of them if you're called you can't be ahead, but if they worked i imagine it's that they folded (unless they're calling a push with a lower bare flush draw lol) I'll make a guess though and say you were never ahead in any of them at any time :P

hand 1: he either folded or u won, i think he called and u won
2: You were winning
3: You lost, he had bigger overpair
4: He called with QQ because he thought his hand was face up.
5: He calls with KT lolz.
6: he called but u hit.
7: He convinces himself to fold a K
8: He insta calls with AA
9: He folds
10: He folds AA (whoops you told me that)

Originally Posted by Ultimate George

Reasons? One, you're playing against players that are thinking at much higher levels *most* of the time.....and two, the money you're playing with is a lot bigger than anything us low-stakes guys play with.

No comments on the above, gabe?

Can this cross-over to lower-stakes games at all, and if so, how?



P.S. I added the "than anything us low-stakes guys play with" part to the end of my quote.

results
1- he called with kings
2-he had K4s and missed, ship it
3-we got it allin on turn and he had 9s, ship it
4-he folded
5-folded
6-folded
7-folded
8-called with kings, i win
9-called with a9 but ship the river spade
10-he folded, told me had two pair though, i believe him

So you won every hand....

BOOORRRRIIIINNNNGGGGG

technically i got outplayed hand 9

i need to pass time time so whatevs

1) i like river shove b/c people will call here with 1 pair even though you know that, not really high on preflop but no biggie, flop and turn probably aren't best plays in isolation but are great for metagame, especially turn

2) top pair is the nuts here, insta-call

3) no dude, this is still a nit and he has you crushed, maybe you got lucky this time

4) 'TAG that kept checking' eh? not really a fan of the hand as a whole, i find people call too much when the go into wa/wb simply because of how they played it (myself included)

5) gross, fold somewhere. if you're hoping he has TJ/KJ, you don't even need to shove river either.

6) seems somewhat standard

7) i like your attitude, damnit

8) seems somewhat standard

9) i b3b bare flush draws as much as anybody, but i don't really like it in this spot. not enough dead money in the pot and there are some hands that you're in really bad shape against (bigger draws).

10) ha, <3

3: no, hes alot different than when you played him. im 100% fine with this.
5: this one was really read specific and had alot to do with history. it sucks as an example.

Hand 1- I play it the same- sometimes I c/r flop

Hand 2- I think this is completely player/ situation/ table flow dependent and I have never played with straate.

Hand 3- with your image this seems fine as a balancing play- specially if he does with 88 99 draws and bluffs as well as hands that beat you.

Hand 4- this is AK just about always in my experience- and tags dont fold AK to you when they take this line I dont think. Also your bet sizing seems bad as you dont have a psb left on river.

Hand 5- This seems really bad- if he has 22-88 your ahead, if he has any goofy type of str8 draw he wants to lead twice your ahead. If he has anything better hes calling. Plz explain this play to me.

Hand 6- std

Hand 7- you have a double gutter on flop- so its.... not a float. I agree you have about 0 sd value on river, but I dont know if you should turn it into a bluff.

Hand 8- this is super super std given your style of play- if you dont do this with your sets/2pairs than ur not a lag- ur a lagtard lol.

Hand 9- This is the perfect flop to make this play imo.

Hand 10- Call me crazy, but against you I think most good players (I heard kerpowski was real good idk) are only betting this river if planning to call a shove... or bluffing. Though the stacks are really, really perfect for this play, I think I like it. (Only trouble is I see you leading ur draws a lot when checked to on the turn even in 3bet pots- does he know this, and do you balance it with checks and bets with made hands often enough he cant gain any info from ur turn check?)

How come I cannot see the hand results on these?

i took them out to promote discussion, i postd them eventually though

Ahh just saw them, thanks

2p2 is down so I guess I will post my thoughts .
Hand1- Buck is pretty tight and reasonable. First off I think preflop kinda sucks but whatever. If he thinks your that bad, I think he should be raising flop or turn with an overpair but if he didn’t hes more likely to call a big river bet. So not a huge fan of this extreme river overbet. I think he is probably insta-calling with any hand that beats you (obv. ) and will probably fold all one pair hands with exception of AA/KK. I think its likely your ahead on river, but I just don’t think its likely that the push is going to get called enough to make it profitable against his range. Plays like this or good though and make you tough to play against but still not a huge fan of your river line.

Hand2- Meh, I think its marginal but probably fine. On your turn call, he can be bluffing or semibluffing enough times to make your call okay. If straate is not drunk though I’d obviously dump. Seems like you have a good balance of leading out with your hands. ;0.

Hand3- I don’t mind this. NMcNasty is not the type of player I want to get it in against, but I guess its okay. He is pretty tight, so I don’t know how often you are ahead here. As played with flop check you greatly under represented your hand so yeah once you check flop go broke on a safe turn.

Hand4- Occasionally fine for balance, I probably would rarely do this though.

Hand5- I really don’t like your flop and turn play. I guess on river you figure you might be pushing him off an ace here…? I probally check river expecting to scoop pot. I guess river push folds hands like- TT, JJ+ (lol rarely has it though) or Ax that would split pot. But all other pairs got counterfeit. Bottom line- I think its alright but I’d just check river.

Hand6- Yeah, you really limit the # of hands he can call with. Seems alright.

Hand7- Krantz can be quite the station. Yet, I probably push river as well if I float flop and fire turn.

Hand8- standard and fine.

Hand9- is there history behind this? People play crazy and retarded in sb vs bb situations. Not enough money in the pot to make a huge overbet like this. Good for meta though and balance.

Hand10- Yeah I like this a lot and you did a good job of representing the flush . If you are going to call the flop and not bet turn then pushing river is mandatory.

gabe give us ten more hands to pass ten more times

havent been playing much but maybe sometime this month