100nl - QQ overpair OOP facing flop raise

Only 92 hands on the villain, but he is 20/15/4 with a raise flop cbet of 25%.

I'm generally at a loss for what my play is here on the flop. It seems b/3b gets me AI when I'm behind, and folds out his draws + weaker overpairs.

If I'm b/calling what's my plan on the turn?


$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($100.00)
UTG+1 CrabClaws ($203.80)
CO roachpole ($104.05)
BTN partyboy-x ($37.05)
SB Roduk ($118.45)
BB rulazaskepas ($101.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, roachpole calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, roachpole raises to $20, $13 to Hero ($89.50)?

U play on stars rite? u have a script that makes it 3.5X PF or u type it urself?

well, if you bet/call the flop, the plan on the turn is to see what the next card is

a blank adds equity
we're c/f scare cards because if he has a set he shouldn't be too happy about a 4 coming off on the turn either

so what we want to know is whether he's going to fire a second barrel with a draw often enough to stack off on blank turns
if he's not going to barrel us with a draw on the turn, then we'll c/f the turn and call a blank river
if he's going to barrel us with a draw, we're getting it in with good equity against a draw, but depends on how often he has a draw here and how often he has a set

so actually I'm kind of thinking b/c flop, c/f turn against most opponents because they're going to give up on the turn if they miss

so with that line we're losing equity against a draw (but not really since we got two bets on the flop already so he's already paid for his "free" turn card) but not getting raped by a set either

i dont think he folds his draws if u b/3b..and he might have a hard time folding an over pair.? I think this is really read dependent.... But im usually sticking it in on the flop...but im at 50nl which is slightly more fishy.

Flop is drawy enough that I'm ok stacking off. I raise to $40ish and call a shove.

3bet small/call'er off

Originally Posted by zook

Flop is drawy enough that I'm ok stacking off. I raise to $40ish and call a shove.

Although I didn't play the hand in this manner, I expected to see a post similar to this.. What kind of flop would you not be looking to get it in on? Would you b/3b on a flop that is only has a FD, and not many straight possibilities, such as 9c5c2d?

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Originally Posted by zook

Flop is drawy enough that I'm ok stacking off. I raise to $40ish and call a shove.

Although I didn't play the hand in this manner, I expected to see a post similar to this.. What kind of flop would you not be looking to get it in on? Would you b/3b on a flop that is only has a FD, and not many straight possibilities, such as 9c5c2d?

Yeah, I would, but it's closer because there are fewer worse pairs that might want to get it in. Flops that I wouldn't get it in... medium flush draw flops that are really coordinated 987 two-tone, 976tt, 865tt etc. paired fd flops like TT3tt, 994tt etc., obv a lot of non-fd flops.