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100NL weird turn spot (edited ... fixed)

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    Default 100NL weird turn spot (edited ... fixed)

    Okay so I'm 15 tabling and I assume most players know this, unless they are really bad in which case I don't care cuz I'm not worried about being exploited. But as I look back on the info I had on the players, I actually had sabsolutely none. 20 hands on 1 player and 4 hands on the other, so going off no info ... what do you think is the best line on the turn?

    I was considering a bet/call or bet/fold depending on how the action came, I wasn't too concerned about the overcall on the flop since players are so bad that can be any pr+draw type hand ... I kinda thought that if I was semi bluffing the flop that to check the turn when I now most likely have the best hand is to be giving up a ton of value, plus the fact that I need to protect my hand from all the terrible cards that can fall on the river. Your guys thoughts?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    SB ($198)
    BB ($30.05)
    UTG ($59.20)
    MP ($81.45)
    Hero ($106.95)
    Button ($91.95)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
    UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, Button calls $5, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG folds.

    Flop: ($17) , , (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $12, Button calls $12, SB calls $12.

    Turn: ($53) (3 players)
    SB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero .. does what ?
  2. #2
    bump ... thoughts?
  3. #3
    Hero checks, bets, or folds

    When i'm playing alot of tables I tend to mash the bet button. I'm betting here the majority of the time, i'm just deciding if its bet 1/2 pot and fold, or bet 3/4th and call.

    Is betting 28 too transparent of a bet/fold line?
  4. #4
    man i dont know thats why i was asking .. no one wants to give any ideas though
  5. #5
    You've come to the conclusion that this is a b/f for sure?

    The way I see it, SB most likely has outs and button most likely has some piece of shit 9... Given that everyone knows that everyone's got outs, someone will definitely let you know if you're beat
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    well, if i b/f its like ... how much do i wanna bet? pot is 53 effective is 80 behind ... if i bet like 35 ... that leaves me w/ 45 behind and the pot is gonna be huge if i get jammed on .. especially w/ the turn card making all sorts of draws now pr +draw will make it very difficult to fold i think ...

    im really not sure whats most optimal line.
  7. #7
    I'd check. It's a pretty dangerous board after all, and set/straight is not unlikely and I'd hate to get raised there if I bet.
    If Button then bets, I'd probably call (not if it's too big) and of course depending on what SB does.
    If Button checks as well I would call a not too big bet on the river but wouldn't bet though...
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  9. #9
    either :

    bet 40 and fold to a raise

    or :

    check behind and bet big on any broadway to rep a bluff (when checked to) and bet small when river is good cuz unless he has a straight, villain will rarely have a good hand that loses to you
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    comon who s gonna think they have fold equity when you bet 40?

    so just fold when they shove
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    genitrue:

    u arent concerned about all the terrible cards that can fall for me on the river? plus the fact that i might actually have the best hand?
  12. #12
    ya i m concerned... but not terrified

    we re concerned about 5, 8, 9 or T right?

    problem is just because any of these cards can help his range doesn't mean we have to protect as if he had all of them... and doesn't mean we have to fold to every river bet when one of them falls.

    i suppose vs a total unknown you might get CR ai here by something stupid like TT that was loltrapping... so I guess bet-call isn't bad.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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