2/4: flop the nuts (deep)

Originally Posted by pocketfours

Lol what? If I think he doesn't have the straight then I think he doesn't have the straight and there's nothing I can do about that is there?

Yes, there is something you can do about it, you can stop being ignorant about you thinking he doesn't have a straight = he never has a straight.

Let me speak for everyone else reading this thread and not posting : WTF?

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

Yes, there is something you can do about it, you can stop being ignorant about you thinking he doesn't have a straight = he never has a straight.

I don't understand what you are trying to achieve by reiterating. Your opinion was duly noted. I didn't say that he never has the straight, I simply said that with my reads I thought the likelihood of him having a straight was small enough that it didn't change my plan in the hand.

If his range by the river consists solely of flopped sets, flopped two pair hands, and he never calls or bets with his two pair hands, then the correct strategy is to c/f. Due to the size of the pot, the correct strategy will change very fast when we start adding straights to his range. This is clear to everyone and can't be argued about.

I certainly get what you and Rich are trying to say: You are saying that this situation is too marginal for me to make such a thin play with so much money commited. I have duly noted your opinion about this and most of the readers will trust your opinion over mine anyway.