Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
folding
lol obviously.. but what do you think he has?

Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Yeah dude I'd really just put it in pre.

Fold now obv.
ok I mean I intentionally flatted pre TO keep the fish in. Is this not a good play?

I know trying to read a fish's range is not good, but what range does he have here that flats my lead, flats the shorty's push (instead of raising again) and then bombs this turn??

All T's might do this (I beat most) , JT, 89 (beats me), all clubs.

I realize this is a very marginal spot. I just figured it was a tradeoff between "waiting for a better spot" against the fish, or folding and maybe the fish leaves, or maybe someone else stacks him etc. Can't always wait for a great spot.

realistically, what is his range for this line and this overshove on turn?

(given my reads on how he has played other hands as well)

I obviously called (cause I have no fold button), I'll give results in a bit. I'm just interested in ranges here, cause his line makes no sense.