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  1. #1

    Default 2 medium pair spots

    First spot)
    200NL. Say we hold 77 on the button and call an open raise of $7 from a TAG in the CO. Blinds fold.

    Flop($16) comes Q63r, he cbets and we call.
    Turn($39): T, putting a FD on the board.
    He checks, Hero ???

    Do you bet or check here?

    If you check, what rivers are you calling a bet on?

    Second spot)
    200NL with $210 stacks. We open to $7 OTB with 99. Guy who is not very aggressive and maybe a bit nitty post flop repops to $22 from the SB. We don't really know much about his 3betting frequency. We call.

    Flop($46): 258 with 2 spades.
    He bets $30, we call.

    Turn($105): 2 offsuit.
    He checks, do you bet or check? ($158 behind)
  2. #2
    hand 1:
    I check behind because I hate getting c/red and don't expect villain to bluff lots of rivers. I don't expect villain to think he has a lot of FE, so I don't call that much rivers.

    I do wonder how good a river raise is when the flush completes and villain bets.

    Hand 2:
    I check behind and call non A/K rivers. Though I don't really now how good that is.
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    i check behind the turn i hand 1 mostly. Against villains who c-bet too much i will bet here though.

    hand 2: against a passive villain i tend to check behind and call a river bet on a blank river (blank being anything but A,K, and Q's). Pushing is good in this spot sometimes too!
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  4. #4
    Hand 1) check. Not really calling any substantial river bet ever unless the river is a 7. Also i'm usually reraising pre.

    Hand 2) check behind obv. It's not like he's calling the bet with anything you're beating. I'd also fold to almost all river leads.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Hand 1) check. Not really calling any substantial river bet ever unless the river is a 7. Also i'm usually reraising pre.

    Hand 2) check behind obv. It's not like he's calling the bet with anything you're beating. I'd also fold to almost all river leads.
    Tbh I think I raise/call the flop in hand 2 a lot if villain is likely 3-betting a bit lighter than standard and decent aggressive postflop (though yours is not as you described). Any comments on that?

    Massimo, would you fold to a turn bet by vilain? If yes, combined with you folding almost all rivers, wouldn't that make it a fold preflop?
  6. #6
    Cool thanks for the posts guys, pretty much confirms what I thought myself.

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