2 Thin value rivar spots.

1. Vllain is 39/14 and a preflop stationy donk. He has been quite active post flop and doesn't like to fold or give up pots.

Is there any value in a bet here. I think most of his range is overcards that are c/f this river or the odd randomly passively played KK or QQ.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) ($118.25)
SB ($52.40)
BB ($65.70)
UTG ($50)
MP ($89.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
2 folds, Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, BB raises $3, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.25) 9, 5, 6 (2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($12.25) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

River: ($25.25) 10 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $25.25


2. Villain is a 54/11 station. I feel like he'll pay off this river with loads of pairs lower than mine + all 10s. Thoughts?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP) ($188.40)
CO ($50)
Button ($50)
SB ($26)
BB ($19.35)
UTG ($60.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, 10
1 fold, Hero bets $2, 3 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 8, 9, 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.70, BB calls $2.70

Turn: ($9.65) 10 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.70, BB calls $4.70

River: ($19.05) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $179 (All-In)

Total pot: $19.05

#1 vs described person I raise flop and b/f river

#2 I dont bet flop but turn and river

1) I'd raise the flop for sure

2) Seems kinda thin but with how much he has left i think its fine.

Yeah idk why I didn't just raise flop in hand one for value and protection.

1) Giving cbet sizing raise flop. As played, meh he probably doesn't have much to call, I'd just check back somtimes, unless I knew he raised more marginal hands (JT, 78, pairs etc). B/F can never be bad here

2) Yah this is fine given how much he has behind. less than a half pot left

Hand 1 could we put out like a 1/5 psb and call a raise?

Originally Posted by bjsaust

Hand 1 could we put out like a 1/5 psb and call a raise?

yaah just noticed description said he's a stationy donk. We're probably better off just betting 20 and folding, he's probably calling the same range for 20 (given diamonds missed) than he is to smaller.