Select Page
Poker Forum
Over 1,292,000 Posts!
Poker ForumShort-Handed NL Hold'em

25NL: TT 300bbs deep IP VS LAG

Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1

    Default 25NL: TT 300bbs deep IP VS LAG

    Im learning to play deepstacked and I got pretty lost with this one. This hand came up 300bbs deep a little over an hour into the session. Everyone at the table has been here over 100 hands.

    Villain is a 39/31/9AF with 58 % steal. He has 3bet twice in just over 100 hands, neither time against me, but its been a pretty loose passive table so he hasnt had a lot of opportunities to 3bet light and I still get the feeling he could be playing back here since its omgblindsteal. We havn't played any big pots yet and I didn't see how he got his stack. I havn't been overboard stealing with trash since SB is a big fish.

    His bet sizing looks so milky/blocky. He probably cbets 100% of his range which will include overpairs/ broadway flushdraws, probably some Axs flushdraws and 9Ts, 89s, 78s , 67s as well as underpairs and missed crap.

    I feel really SA/WB on the flop and don't really know what he can barrel this size that I beat on the turn when so few hands are folding on this board. Thoughts would be appreciated.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
    UTG ($92.90)
    MP ($56.35)
    CO ($25.87)
    Hero (Button) ($111.88)
    SB ($60.41)
    BB ($77.36)
    Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, 10
    3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($5.90) 7, 9, 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25

    Turn: ($12.40) 5 (2 players)
    BB bets $5.75, Hero ....?
    Last edited by Pelion; 09-08-2010 at 06:25 PM.
    gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

    bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
  2. #2
    pocketfours's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    2,765
    Location
    Lighting sweet moneys on fire.
    I wouldn't fold for this price.
  3. #3
    What's there to get lost about? Call and see what's up on the river!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  4. #4
    Ok I was hoping to get some "call and if the river is X then Id probably Y" type responses.

    Anyway, I called because he can be barelling some draws or less likely overcards, and a small chance he's barrelling 33 because hes just kinda aggro. I'll hopefully get to showdown cheaply if I'm ahead and I'm getting pretty nice odds. River is:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
    UTG ($92.90)
    MP ($56.35)
    CO ($25.87)
    Hero (Button) ($111.88)
    SB ($60.41)
    BB ($77.36)
    Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, 10
    3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $2
    Flop: ($5.90) 7, 9, 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25
    Turn: ($12.40) 5 (2 players)
    BB bets $5.75, Hero calls $5.75
    River: ($23.90) 2 (2 players)
    BB bets $16, Hero ??? [$49 behind if I call]

    The flush gets there, the 33 surely doesnt fire again, and the JJ must be getting at least a little nervous by now. Do I beat anything?

    How about if he bets $16 on a 2 river?
    Last edited by Pelion; 09-09-2010 at 02:13 PM.
    gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

    bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
  5. #5
    I think this spot is too common and has too many factors for anyone to give a reasonable answer. This type of spot for me usually depends on what has happened in the recent history (last few times he's 3bet me) and my feel for his sizing/timing in the hand, and what he thinks I'll do.

    2s or 2h doesn't make too much difference to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  6. #6
    pocketfours's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    2,765
    Location
    Lighting sweet moneys on fire.
    I think a shove is ok here but the fact that we didn't raise his weak looking turn bet with so much money behind certainly takes away credibility. Another consideration is that at these stakes a lot of players will simply never fold AA/KK overpairs postflop no matter what.

    With that in mind I'd probably fold.
  7. #7
    gabe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    13,804
    Location
    trying to live
    id raise that flop. deep stacks + overpair + unlikely chance of getting rebluffed + villain can call with worse + saves you from being in a tough spot on the next 2 streets
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    id raise that flop. deep stacks + overpair + unlikely chance of getting rebluffed + villain can call with worse + saves you from being in a tough spot on the next 2 streets
    So you're folding if 3bet then?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  9. #9
    gabe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    13,804
    Location
    trying to live
    yea but i wouldnt expect that to happen much. i think tens are the only turns id bet
  10. #10
    So if we raise flop and check behind the turn what are we planning for the river?

    It looks strong enough that Im not convinced we induce anything from A high, and Im guessing pairs will just want to get to showdown. c/f river?
    gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

    bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
  11. #11
    gabe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    13,804
    Location
    trying to live
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelion View Post
    It looks strong enough that Im not convinced we induce anything from A high, and Im guessing pairs will just want to get to showdown. c/f river?
    if we raised flop to 8 or 9 he might call with Ax and bluff river. i would try to check it down

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •