5/10 Need river calling range

Originally Posted by Alexos

Kind of surprised at the amount of ppl saying easy bet/call here with any SD hand. After such history with villain, I always assume he's not crazy enough to take a more elaborate bluff line like c/shoving here as a bluff.

I'm just saying that I think the risk of being checkraised as a bluff here is too high for us to betfold for value. I don't think it's very likely that his plan is to c/c on this river. I would certainly need more reads on villain before I would attempt to induce with KQ/A4 or whatever.

I think it's a little suspicious that he overbets like this when we very rarely have a boat ourselves since we can't have A3, QQ, 33 or 88.

I also don't think a bluff here is very elaborate for a weak player. He gives up on the river with his missed draws and when we bet he realises that he can jam and it's going to be very unlikely that we have a hand that can call him.

Originally Posted by pocketfours

I'm just saying that I think the risk of being checkraised as a bluff here is too high for us to betfold for value. I don't think it's very likely that his plan is to c/c on this river. I would certainly need more reads on villain before I would attempt to induce with KQ/A4 or whatever.

I think it's a little suspicious that he overbets like this when we very rarely have a boat ourselves since we can't have A3, QQ, 33 or 88.

I also don't think a bluff here is very elaborate for a weak player. He gives up on the river with his missed draws and when we bet he realises that he can jam and it's going to be very unlikely that we have a hand that can call him.

I agree with all of this. So the question is what would be our range and sizing for betting this river then? If we can assume that villain will rarely c/c here. Does that make this always a check back when you have SD value since its unlikely any of our hands are strong enough to bet/call (assuming your not trying to induce) and there isn't much in villain's range to get value from?

Originally Posted by reDZill4

I agree with all of this. So the question is what would be our range and sizing for betting this river then? If we can assume that villain will rarely c/c here. Does that make this always a check back when you have SD value since its unlikely any of our hands are strong enough to bet/call (assuming your not trying to induce) and there isn't much in villain's range to get value from?

I would be pretty happy just taking down the $435 in the pot. Feels a little weak to not bet an ace though. I usually don't let fear of a c/r stop me from betting but in this spot I think it's ok since our range is quite severely capped and villain probably has air anyway with the two flushdraws out there.

With a missed draw and any boat I would bet $85. Wouldn't bet a missed K high though.