Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
if he's a moron he could show up with 77. You don't have such a read. He's probably just getting tricky with AA/KK because he thinks you'll apply the reasoning you just gave and call with worse. It's really not that complicated of a play....do you give respect to backraises? This shove seems even stronger than most backraises.
Alright, I'm just trying to get an idea of ranges here, so it seems most ppl give him huge respect. I had AKo in this hand and I shoved and wanted to see how good/bad that was.

Clearly bad!