50nl AA vs donk

Opp is a donkish 38/10 roughly. doesnt get aggro much in the short session with him. Can we get away from this??


$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG drussefar ($55.42)
UTG+1 198819881988 ($51.52)
CO Hero ($49.25)
BTN Berserkeer ($37.72)
SB VIP81 ($51.48)
BB dubber ($60.37)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, dubber calls $1

Flop: ($3.25, 2 players)
dubber checks, Hero bets $2.75, dubber raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $16.75, dubber calls $11.25

Turn: ($36.75, 2 players)
dubber bets $18.37, Hero ????????

just ask yourself if you fold ace 10 here, your hand is worth a bit more but not a lot

mixchange hit it. your hand is pretty worthless at this point and villain is obv trying to get value here. i mean, hes not leading 1/2 pot OOP as a bluff after calling the flop 3bet.

Originally Posted by bode

mixchange hit it. your hand is pretty worthless at this point and villain is obv trying to get value here. i mean, hes not leading 1/2 pot OOP as a bluff after calling the flop 3bet.

well obv hes not bluffing. he probably plays lots of tens like this and jj/qq kind of stuff.

once you 3bet the flop you should be happily getting it in here.

ya, if you 3b flop get it in imo

cool, also btw theres a 1/2 pot button on this site.

don't fold aces here imo. The fact he didn't push the flop suggests no set/2p but more likely tp. Maybe he's playing funnily, but on the turn since you say this guys a donk, he might just be have that oop 'limbo' feeling and be pressing the 1/2 pot button with his tp because he's confused,doesn't know what to do and scared of you after the 3-bet.

then again my gut sense tells me he has you beat

Originally Posted by parislad

don't fold aces here imo. The fact he didn't push the flop suggests no set/2p but more likely tp. Maybe he's playing funnily, but on the turn since you say this guys a donk, he might just be have that oop 'limbo' feeling and be pressing the 1/2 pot button with his tp because he's confused,doesn't know what to do and scared of you after the 3-bet.

then again my gut sense tells me he has you beat

Parislad, if your gut sense is that your beat, you've gotta fold. The only real outs for Hero are more aces - only two left. BTW, very few villains in my experience check-shove sets/2p on the flop. They're donks, and more likely to check-min-raise with strength (especially sets).

Anyway, Goat, mixchange and bode have it nailed. I think we gotta fold.

meh im not folding here ever actually lol.

tbh i 4got how flop played out. if im raising up flop like i did and turns a blank then getting it in now is fine.

btw i dont expect him to have a str8 at all really.

i take it we're putting him on a set here then? surely not 89 the way that flop played out....unless he's got a shit concept of pot odds
and i can't see a 2p personally
but it gives you that 'im fucked here' feeling tho doesn't it???

Originally Posted by parislad

it gives you that 'im fucked here' feeling tho doesn't it???

qft

fold? is this some kind of amazing level? after you 3bet that flop no way in hell. if you dont 3bet flop then you have a decision, but i still dont fold since i have a huge hand.

villain has a wide range and is a newb. aces is 98% of the time nuts vs those players.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

fold? is this some kind of amazing level? after you 3bet that flop no way in hell. if you dont 3bet flop then you have a decision, but i still dont fold since i have a huge hand.

villain has a wide range and is a newb. aces is 98% of the time nuts vs those players.

The check-min-raise is a very noob way of saying "I'm really strong." I'm ditching this hand on the flop. I think we have a 2 outer. And if we wanted to get it all in, Goat, why not overshove the min-raise on the flop?

min-c/r aint a storng play unless you have history with him and seen that b4.

overshove is way bad since i want Tx in.

Outcome requested, thx

I doubt I'm folding it at any point, by the way. If he has me beat, I take a note and watch my step around him in the future.

If you folded the title should be 50nl donk vs donk

he had T6

Puke....

Everyday I promise I will not call anybody a donk in chat or start swearing at them because they're hugely +ev but then these hands happen & I...

You stupid f ucken fool. &*^*&%^"*&!^ donkey. T6 wtf!
Now where the hell am I supposed to find the money to pay your mom for last night!

meh i had to hold back abuse in chat last night when another lesser donk typed his nut hand in chat and took time before calling my shove.

Originally Posted by Robb

Originally Posted by wufwugy

fold? is this some kind of amazing level? after you 3bet that flop no way in hell. if you dont 3bet flop then you have a decision, but i still dont fold since i have a huge hand.

villain has a wide range and is a newb. aces is 98% of the time nuts vs those players.

The check-min-raise is a very noob way of saying "I'm really strong." I'm ditching this hand on the flop. I think we have a 2 outer. And if we wanted to get it all in, Goat, why not overshove the min-raise on the flop?

it was until people began realizing they can get people to fold with it.

poor players evolve too.

Quit being a baby about being stacked by a funny hand.

I felt this every time and am usually happy with the result.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quit being a baby about being stacked by a funny hand.

I felt this every time and am usually happy with the result.

Since you steal so many pots Fnord, you have to get it in in these spots. I don't know if Goat necessarily has your image.

Originally Posted by mixchange

Originally Posted by Fnord

Quit being a baby about being stacked by a funny hand.

I felt this every time and am usually happy with the result.

Since you steal so many pots Fnord, you have to get it in in these spots. I don't know if Goat necessarily has your image.

Is image really that important here given:

1) It's 50NL
2) villain is a donk
3) There is little history between the two players.

Originally Posted by d0zer

Is image really that important here

Yes and no.

I probably get more action because I'm playing a wide range of hands against a guy like this. Often that works well, sometimes it goes bad. Either way, I get noticed.

That said, small stakes regs don't gamble with them enough. My favorite stripper appreciates this. That's like a 10x bigger leak that this spot could ever be. However, that's a tough one for your lizard brain to accept.