50NL TT 3b pot

Villain is 16/14 steal of 30%, fold to 3b of 20%

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($67.70)
BB ($52.60)
UTG ($50.20)
MP ($157.20)
CO ($78.25)
Button ($52.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 10
2 folds, CO bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.75, 1 fold, CO calls $5

Flop: ($14) 3, Q, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.75, CO calls $8.75

Turn: ($31.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($31.50) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $16, CO calls $16

Total pot: $63.50 | Rake: $3

I cbet the flop because I didn't expect him to fold much. I decided to only go for two streets of value because I think the range that gives me value if I check turn and bet river but fold to a turn bet is much larger than the range that will call turn and call or fold river. The bet sizing on the river is because I want him to think he has fold equity on a shove and because I think he has more hands like JJ in his range than hands that will call any bet size like AQ. Is that sound? Should I just bet/bet/shove? Oh and I was c/r turn if he bet because his range for betting turn is probably hands he wants to get it in with and air he was floating with.

I would go $7/$14/shove personally
if you play your sets this way, how do you expect to barrel people off their hands when you're bluffing?

I've felt recently that thinking about what I should do against good players has hurt my game against weaker players.

EDIT: didn't mean thinking about what I should do against good players is bad, I meant applying it against weaker players is a leak.

I would have bet/bet/shoved but wtf at balancing at 50NL.

i typically flat here PF, idk if that's standard or not

Even when he folds to a 3bet only 20% of the time?

Originally Posted by kmind

I would have bet/bet/shoved but wtf at balancing at 50NL.

I didn't say that was my reasoning for it, I meant it as an aside to think about

I just think that putting AQ/KQ to a tough decision on all three streets is more EV+ than making it easy on 2

today at 100NL I got herocalled all day by all kinds of middle pairs by other regs, so I think regulars do take note of the fact that I make them fold a lot of hands by constantly barreling
this guy's stats are like standard nitreg stats for NL50 other than his high 3b call

Ok.

In my games people never fold AQ/KQ anyway on this board. If the turn was a scarier card I surely would have bet both for protection and to balance my range.

Originally Posted by Parasurama

In my games people never fold AQ/KQ anyway on this board. If the turn was a scarier card I surely would have bet both for protection and to balance my range.

all the more reason to go for all three streets?

yeah I just think his range was so wide that this line was better

I think he's pot controling more often than he's floating in a 3-bet pot at these stakes. So many of his hands are just happy not to confront an all-in.

Wow didn't expect this hh. Flatting pre is prob more std.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

Wow didn't expect this hh. Flatting pre is prob more std.

why?

well his calling range appears to crush us when we 3bet so theres more value in flatting preflop vs this guy and 3betting a highly polarised range with high junkremium ratio

He folds 20% of the time to 3bets, we are crushing his calling range.

Originally Posted by kmind

He folds 20% of the time to 3bets, we are crushing his calling range.

I'm guessing he called 4/5 3bs in however many hands you played with him?

you can't assume he calls 80% as his standard
he might be calling 50% and ran well on 3b calling cards this session

I mean it's not like you have 2989 hands on him and his 3b call is 79.6%
that said, since it's TT it's probably still fine

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

i typically flat here PF, idk if that's standard or not

Pretty standard. I pretty much close my eyes and call 2 barrels too.

It was under my impression he had a bunch of hands on him or else he would have stated it.

1/2 pot, 1/2 pot, shove river.

Why get so fancy with a set at 50NL? I personally think your line looks way more like a value line than a bluff line anyway.

Yeah maybe I was overthinking it. The sample size wasn't huge but it was that he called 8/10 3b's. I kind of wanted to know if it's correct to let our opponent do exactly what he wants to do (call 2 bets and show down in this case) when it's not actually +EV for him to do it.

Another relevant question: is the turn a good or a bad card to barrel if I were bluffing?

turn is not great to barrel
it's ok if you picked up a draw

30% steal percentage isn't crazy high and he is opening from the CO, which is usually the one of three spots people steal from the least. The call 3Bet% would be more accurate if we knew the sample size but even though he doesn't fold much to 3Bets, I think we're cutting it very thin by 3Betting TT here. I agree that flatting is better and puts you in less marginal spots post-flop.

Also, you flopped a set man! You want to get your chips in by showdown and checking the turn is NOT the way to do that. Half/Half/Shove is such a standard line in this situation. If he folds on the turn or river, fine. But with such a strong hand, you want to get proper value.

FWIW, some players will know when you're bluffing in 3Bet pots if you go bet-check-bet with your strong hands.

this is def. a standard 3bet here, idk what spenda/goat are talking about. I also go for 3 streets of value and agree the line you took looks stronger.