Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
Quote Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp
Fold. Who wouldn't lead with a set into this board? His 3bet says you're either crushed or he has an assload of outs. Combined, its a fold.

Sets aren't all we're worried about here either.
That's being too general, how often do you think he has a set here as opposed to a draw? And if he slowplayed JJ-KK preflop don't you think he plays it the same way? Even if I think he either has me crushed or he has a lot of outs, the fact that I'm getting nearly 2-1 makes it a call depending on how often I think he has a draw/set etc. The math in this hand is very important.

People at Party 200nl slowplay the shit out of their sets for the most part. How can you put some guy square on a set when he leads for pot on the flop into the PFR and shoves in when he gets raised. Most people do not play sets like that. A hand like A5 or 56 I doubt he even defends his blind with, but it's possible. But once again, I wouldn't expect a flopped straight to come out firing like that either. Yes he played it good by leading out, but the 200nl games are hardly aggressive enough to warrant playing a set that fast against your average 200nl player. That is a move best served for the higher stakes where people are much more aggressive and their bluffing frequency is much higher.
That is true, but even an average player knows this is a shitty board that will scare one of you off if the money doesnt get in now. If the games are so unaggressive then why would he be playing 99 or JJ so hard?

But looking over the HH again, I feel tempted to call too. Shit, I don't know I think its one of those times where you need to be there to make a decision.