Quote Originally Posted by Lukie
Quote Originally Posted by PokerMuzz
WOW that's sick. The only hand I see making this move is 66.

With only $8 invested in the pot its not worth risking your whole stack to find out
"opponent is 45/7, donkish."

whether or not it's a call or fold is debatable but I think you're crazy if you think his range is 66. Obviously if our opponent is playing ideally it's a turbo muck, but that's not the case. Hence, debatable.

Another way to look at it is that we could wait for AA/66/AK here and easily be +EV since it's such a massive overbet, but IMO we can profitably call with more hands then that. I don't know how far down we could or should go, but I think we can profitably call with any ace+paint and obv
boat/quads.
Ok i get your point, he's a donk...But WTF open pushing $552 into $17? Surely even a donk realises that he is only going to get called by a better hand ih he has a weak ace/lower pair/sick bluff esp with his image?

OK we MAY have him beat, but i really don't understand calling and potentially losing the stack. Perhaps I'm playing scared money but I'm rarely calling $340 to win $17 with less than a boat/quads/AK on this flop.

Is the Hero folding this flop to a $12 bet without an Ace? Probably...He may RR a PP here, but if it gets pushed over then its a clear fold.

SO if I've hit a boat on the flop - and he's folding anyway if he doesnt have an Ace. Lets make it dam tricky for him to lay down any Ace with our current donk image for maximum $$ by open pushing the flop.

And yes Villain may be a donk, but equally why would he want to risk $340 for $8 with a weak ace/smaller PP or air?

I'm no poker math WIZARD, but..would we need to call this correctly over 20 times out of 21 for this to be the right play? Honestly I couldn't see the call here being correct that much, I certainly couldnt see it being 20 to 1 on that we are ahead.

Rip my post to shreads dude, I'm just interested in this hand and I won't be offended if you think I'm talking bollocks I'm currently at work working in a department that I don't usually work in. I have like NOTHING to do apart from browse the net LOLz. I have done 2 piece of 5 minute work all morning.