Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
Jeff, the push is completely terrible. I just did a little EV calculation and no matter how generous the assumptions I make, the villain loses a LOT of value by open-pushing. How often does OP have a hand that can even think about calling a push? Maybe 10% of the time, even less if OP is folding some of the weaker aces (which he would). How often does the villain lose the additional action that OP would have given with the rest of the hands in his range? I just don't understand why you're defending this play because I'm sure you would never make such a horrid play yourself.
how much value would he lose from say a KK? Maybe a flop cbet and a river value bet but thats about it, not more than 25 BB. To villain, our Hero has an Ace in his range here even though 2 are showing on the flop. Of those aces a high % of them are going to be weighted in teh good kicker category, capable of making "the call."

That being said, you ever heard the theory that every time you raise preflop your villain puts you on AK ? It being an open push just makes it that much more donkier and harder for you to fold. He put OP on the ace, open pushed, and was correct. If our hero doesn't have an ace at best they could think they're getting a cbet and no more.