Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
You guys who think open-shoving with the boat is good, can one of you please do an EV calculation that shows that it's anywhere close to being good because your arguments aren't very persuasive. "If he has an ace I'm going to take his stack and post it in the pwnage thread" isn't an argument.
A lot of it depends on Hero's image, Villain's image, if Villain knows what his image is, and Hero's isolating range.

Anyway, if Hero has anything but an A, Villain probably wins $17 more at most. If Hero has a big A (likely since he raised preflop), then Villain is staking his claim to Hero's $329 left in his stack.

Since Villain will lose every time to Hero's AA and A6 and 23% of the time to Ax, Hero's call is worth no more than .54*329 or about 178. This means Hero must call more than 17/195 or about 9% of the time with a hand that is behind. Hero only needs to have Ax 9%/y% of the time where y% is the percentage of time that Hero calls with an A. I think it's a pretty good push if Villain has a bad image, Hero is tilting, or Hero just makes loose calls on a consistent basis.