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    Default AK flop decision 25NL

    UTG is 8/10/2.8 over 128 hands, thats why I didn't 3-bet pre. MP is 30/8/0.9 over 95 hands. Do I fold this?

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    SB ($24)
    BB ($41.45)
    UTG ($25)
    MP ($22.25)
    Hero ($33.50)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K.
    UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($3.35) K, 2, A (3 players)
    UTG bets $2.5, MP raises to $10, Hero??? [color=#CC3333]
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    So so so sick, I think folding here is an option, I just don't think anyone could ever manage it.
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    Ok lets have some analysis other than shove/fold.

    A tight preflop player raises UTG and bets the flop, it conceivable he might have AQ, AK for split or QQ+. Then passive player comes over the top on a fairly innocuous board, I cant see him reraise with a FD here.But there's only one other hand he can be repping, that has us beat. A flush draw isn't in either's range so if I push I cant see getting called by any hands we beat...can you?

    Lets put ppl on some ranges rather, than shove/fold.

    I'm not saying I folded/shoved/called w/e yet. I think it's a fairly interesting spot, no?

    Maybe you guys thing this is a superstandard push... I'd like to see some reasoning given both players stats.
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    Why are you calling pre if you're considering folding this flop?

    I don't think you can say fd isn't in his range 100%. People make goofy plays especially at 25nl. You only have 95 hands on the guy i wouldn't say can't ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meeloche
    Why are you calling pre if you're considering folding this flop?

    I don't think you can say fd isn't in his range 100%. People make goofy plays especially at 25nl. You only have 95 hands on the guy i wouldn't say can't ever.
    A 10/8 or whatever is not raising KQs/KTs UTG and the other player is a bit too passive for a FD here - its a pretty big raise too for FD!

    I'm not that worried about UTG sure he could have AA or KK but it's unlikely, I'm more worried about MP, who is passive betting $10 on the flop
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    look we have top two at 25nl lets shove for christ sakes, not worth anyones time arguing for or against anyways.
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    shove
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    there are 5 total combos that beat you and the guy who raised the flop is most likely a retard. just push
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    I think not 3betting PF makes this decision much tougher because you don't have a handle on anyone's range.

    That being said, there's no way you can fold this 100bb deep.
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    are people seriously considering folding?
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    I fold this in a heartbeat, and I feel like I'm a bit of a station at most times. I really don't care if it's 25NL, I don't think you can hope for anything but a split pot.

    FWIW I think a 3-bet preflop would have been the way to go. I don't think a PFR of 10 is too nitty to 3-bet preflop with AK.


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    Agree I can't fold this and I didn't.

    Me and UTG sucked out with AK, hitting a K on river for a split. MP had 22 lolz

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